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It's easy to shit on other people who falls for scams but even someone who has a security focus can fall for it. I personally used "The Great Suspender" for ye

It's easy to shit on other people who falls for scams but even someone who has a security focus can fall for it. I personally used "The Great Suspender" for years until it was bought out and the rug was pulled out from under me. I do think Apple's requirements are higher than Android for publishing apps, but I would not risk that much money on a mobile device ecosystem. If you're transferring $600,000 worth of BTC, purchase a one-time use laptop and use wallet.trezor.io as your web wallet. This laptop should only be used for this workload and kept offline / powered off otherwise.

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throwaway21001 5y ago
Apple users are losing millions. It's a scam even a high school kid could find out. But somehow Apple couldn't. Because it makes them money. https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/21/22385859/apple-app-store-scams-fraud-review-enforcement-top-grossing-kosta-eleftheriou https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/21/22385859/apple-app-store-...
- viro 5y ago
  I find it funny that users of this site constantly complain about how Apple should treat iPhones as general purpose computers and every time Apple does they scream about not protecting them from scams. you can't have it both ways.
  - quelltext 5y ago
    That's not a fair complaint. It can be turned around. In fact YOU (well, I mean Apple) cannot have it both (other) ways. It's not fair to arbitrarily remove legitimate apps, lock down the devices, under the guise of user safety but in the end fail to actually provide the level of security at all that people now expect and paid the price of the device not being GP. If Apple is so sure of their measures they should also cover (i.e. pay up) any damages when fraudulent or dangerous apps do make it to the store or are not removed in a timely fashion. The fees they siphon off from app revenue should probably go there.
  - NovemberWhiskey 5y ago
    I think it's slightly more nuanced than that. It's more like "the walled garden is bound to fail and allow malicious apps so you might as well allow people to load whatever apps they like".
    - xbar 5y ago
      Are you arguing that imperfect security is worse than no security?
      - quelltext 5y ago
        I don't think they said that. The argument is rather that the AppStore is not secure at all, but a) we still cannot sideload apps and b) legitimate apps get kicked off for no good reason, etc. The problem is false security and false expectations. Arguably it's easier for a user today to accidentally download a scammy app from the app store than it would ever be to do when sideloading. The latter would always come with the expectation and warning that it's not vetted by anyone, so the user and/or community will invest the time to make sure the download is legitimate.
  - throwaway21001 5y ago
    General purpose computing doesn't mean tolerating multimillion USD scams even after numerous complaints. Apple has created an aura that it's App Store is trustworthy. One person was enough to blow that out of the water. Also he didn't even have to do something brilliant/hard to find out these scams.
- arthur_sav 5y ago
  I don't buy that. Apples brand is everything, why allow a few scammers to make a quick buck? Negligence and simply the size of the Appstore is more likely at play.
Wassimo 5y ago
There are so many gamer's out there that I am wondering why they haven't united to take down Bitcoin and Other Cryptocurrencies with their powerful gaming PC's. They are pissed off about GPU prices being high and all the crime and the environmental impact Bitcoin causes they can get together to undermine the network. If gamers started a mining pool not for profit but to take down the network I can see it happening. First start mining with smaller cryptocurrencies, the money goes to encrypted wallets that no one controls then start posting fake transactions with that money to clog up the network. As publicity gets more people to join the project, they can then start performing 51% attacks to further undermine the network. At some point that crypto will be worthless and they can move on to a bigger one then just repeat until they get up to bitcoin. But as the mainstream media picks up the story I don't think they would even need to get to Bitcoin as everything will collapses. Conclusion: Better Environment, Less Financial Fraud, LOWER GPU prices. Someone start the project and call it "Gamers VS Crypto" or something like that.
- WrtCdEvrydy 5y ago
  GPU mining is no longer profitable and is being used a scapegoat for a shortage of GPU chips.
  - Wassimo 5y ago
    I think in a large mining pool this is still a possibility to attack the network with 20 Series Nvidia and Above / Equivalent Video Cards. Especially if gamers get together to attack the network, the pool can grow into the millions of users.
xur17 5y ago
If you're transferring $600k, use a hardware wallet, not a web wallet.
- ForHackernews 5y ago
  Or, y'know, a bank transfer.
  - xur17 5y ago
    For transferring bitcoin?
    - ForHackernews 5y ago
      For "transferring $600k" - I was assuming the "$" indicated USD.
- silicon2401 5y ago
  I just bought a small amount of crypto on Coinbase to toe the waters (think double-digits worth). Still, if I wanted optimal security, what would I do to keep my crypto safe?
  - WrtCdEvrydy 5y ago
    Use a Trezor with wallet.trezor.io
  - creepto 5y ago
    It's such a small amount don't bother.
- WrtCdEvrydy 5y ago
  Trezor's hardware wallet is operated via web wallet through Trezor Bridge. The transaction is set up on the web wallet, the hardware wallet shows you the details on it's own screen, and you can sign on the hardware wallet.
- aledalgrande 5y ago

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throwaway21001 5y ago

Apple users are losing millions. It's a scam even a high school kid could find out. But somehow Apple couldn't. Because it makes them money. https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/21/22385859/apple-app-store-scams-fraud-review-enforcement-top-grossing-kosta-eleftheriou https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/21/22385859/apple-app-store-...

viro 5y ago
I find it funny that users of this site constantly complain about how Apple should treat iPhones as general purpose computers and every time Apple does they scream about not protecting them from scams. you can't have it both ways.
- quelltext 5y ago
  That's not a fair complaint. It can be turned around. In fact YOU (well, I mean Apple) cannot have it both (other) ways. It's not fair to arbitrarily remove legitimate apps, lock down the devices, under the guise of user safety but in the end fail to actually provide the level of security at all that people now expect and paid the price of the device not being GP. If Apple is so sure of their measures they should also cover (i.e. pay up) any damages when fraudulent or dangerous apps do make it to the store or are not removed in a timely fashion. The fees they siphon off from app revenue should probably go there.
- NovemberWhiskey 5y ago
  I think it's slightly more nuanced than that. It's more like "the walled garden is bound to fail and allow malicious apps so you might as well allow people to load whatever apps they like".
  - xbar 5y ago
    Are you arguing that imperfect security is worse than no security?
    - quelltext 5y ago
      I don't think they said that. The argument is rather that the AppStore is not secure at all, but a) we still cannot sideload apps and b) legitimate apps get kicked off for no good reason, etc. The problem is false security and false expectations. Arguably it's easier for a user today to accidentally download a scammy app from the app store than it would ever be to do when sideloading. The latter would always come with the expectation and warning that it's not vetted by anyone, so the user and/or community will invest the time to make sure the download is legitimate.
- throwaway21001 5y ago
  General purpose computing doesn't mean tolerating multimillion USD scams even after numerous complaints. Apple has created an aura that it's App Store is trustworthy. One person was enough to blow that out of the water. Also he didn't even have to do something brilliant/hard to find out these scams.
arthur_sav 5y ago
I don't buy that. Apples brand is everything, why allow a few scammers to make a quick buck? Negligence and simply the size of the Appstore is more likely at play.

Wassimo 5y ago

There are so many gamer's out there that I am wondering why they haven't united to take down Bitcoin and Other Cryptocurrencies with their powerful gaming PC's. They are pissed off about GPU prices being high and all the crime and the environmental impact Bitcoin causes they can get together to undermine the network. If gamers started a mining pool not for profit but to take down the network I can see it happening. First start mining with smaller cryptocurrencies, the money goes to encrypted wallets that no one controls then start posting fake transactions with that money to clog up the network. As publicity gets more people to join the project, they can then start performing 51% attacks to further undermine the network. At some point that crypto will be worthless and they can move on to a bigger one then just repeat until they get up to bitcoin. But as the mainstream media picks up the story I don't think they would even need to get to Bitcoin as everything will collapses. Conclusion: Better Environment, Less Financial Fraud, LOWER GPU prices. Someone start the project and call it "Gamers VS Crypto" or something like that.

WrtCdEvrydy 5y ago
GPU mining is no longer profitable and is being used a scapegoat for a shortage of GPU chips.
- Wassimo 5y ago
  I think in a large mining pool this is still a possibility to attack the network with 20 Series Nvidia and Above / Equivalent Video Cards. Especially if gamers get together to attack the network, the pool can grow into the millions of users.

xur17 5y ago

If you're transferring $600k, use a hardware wallet, not a web wallet.

ForHackernews 5y ago
Or, y'know, a bank transfer.
- xur17 5y ago
  For transferring bitcoin?
  - ForHackernews 5y ago
    For "transferring $600k" - I was assuming the "$" indicated USD.
silicon2401 5y ago
I just bought a small amount of crypto on Coinbase to toe the waters (think double-digits worth). Still, if I wanted optimal security, what would I do to keep my crypto safe?
- WrtCdEvrydy 5y ago
  Use a Trezor with wallet.trezor.io
- creepto 5y ago
  It's such a small amount don't bother.
WrtCdEvrydy 5y ago
Trezor's hardware wallet is operated via web wallet through Trezor Bridge. The transaction is set up on the web wallet, the hardware wallet shows you the details on it's own screen, and you can sign on the hardware wallet.
aledalgrande 5y ago