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I don't have a dishwasher and it isn't because of cost or space. I just don't think they are worth it unless you save up dirty dishes for a few days. If you was

I don't have a dishwasher and it isn't because of cost or space. I just don't think they are worth it unless you save up dirty dishes for a few days. If you wash everything right away it's easier to not use the dishwasher, especially with a good sized drying rack for easy reuse of common items. I suppose I feel the same way with print debugging. Mostly that's all I need and the problems I have which would benefit from better tools are rare enough and diverse enough it isn't worth investing time in them.

dcow 6y ago
Dishwashers are better for the environment. There’s even a new Bosch model with a passive heating element (crazy) for the dry cycle. Perhaps if you live solo and don’t do much cooking you don’t need a dishwasher. But even in that cases I’d bet you’re better off running say a half load once a day.
- akvadrako 6y ago
  I've heard that before but I doubt it. The embodied energy in a dishwasher installation will certainly take a while to recoup and it would depend a lot on how one measures hand washing. Anyway I don't really care about some insignificant "environment" difference - the affect on daily convenience far outweighs it.
- pa7ch 6y ago
  Just speaking personally, if I cared enough about efficiency to get a dishwasher, I'd rather instead have a bigger sink and setup a wash and rinse bin for dishes. Its the classic way to preserve water at a campsite when doing lots of dishes. A tub setup would be more environmentally friendly considering the resources put into a dishwasher these days. Certainly drying via a towel is better then an electric heater.
  - dcow 6y ago
    Modern dishwashers recycle water. I’m not sure a wash/rinse setup actually uses less water. I guess it depends on how big the sink is and how much water you fill it with. The Bosch passive heating element is really neat btw and avoids electric heating.
db48x 6y ago
Sure, if you live alone and don’t cook, then washing dishes by hand won’t take very long. Maybe it’ll take less time than loading the dishwasher. But that’s a fairly uncommon scenario, I think. Most people cook dinner for their family, and then have a whole dishwasher full of dishes to wash every single night.
- kwdc 6y ago
  Interestingly, its good to be uncommon. In my household, the one who cooks does not wash up the plates etc. We don't have a dishwasher. Many hands make light work. We call this "social cleaning".

dcow 6y ago

Dishwashers are better for the environment. There’s even a new Bosch model with a passive heating element (crazy) for the dry cycle. Perhaps if you live solo and don’t do much cooking you don’t need a dishwasher. But even in that cases I’d bet you’re better off running say a half load once a day.

akvadrako 6y ago
I've heard that before but I doubt it. The embodied energy in a dishwasher installation will certainly take a while to recoup and it would depend a lot on how one measures hand washing. Anyway I don't really care about some insignificant "environment" difference - the affect on daily convenience far outweighs it.
pa7ch 6y ago
Just speaking personally, if I cared enough about efficiency to get a dishwasher, I'd rather instead have a bigger sink and setup a wash and rinse bin for dishes. Its the classic way to preserve water at a campsite when doing lots of dishes. A tub setup would be more environmentally friendly considering the resources put into a dishwasher these days. Certainly drying via a towel is better then an electric heater.
- dcow 6y ago
  Modern dishwashers recycle water. I’m not sure a wash/rinse setup actually uses less water. I guess it depends on how big the sink is and how much water you fill it with. The Bosch passive heating element is really neat btw and avoids electric heating.

db48x 6y ago

Sure, if you live alone and don’t cook, then washing dishes by hand won’t take very long. Maybe it’ll take less time than loading the dishwasher. But that’s a fairly uncommon scenario, I think. Most people cook dinner for their family, and then have a whole dishwasher full of dishes to wash every single night.

kwdc 6y ago
Interestingly, its good to be uncommon. In my household, the one who cooks does not wash up the plates etc. We don't have a dishwasher. Many hands make light work. We call this "social cleaning".