> I don't see the political part in this > it needs to turn into a "you're a jerk" debate. I think you don't see the political part because you're not a jerk,

> I don't see the political part in this > it needs to turn into a "you're a jerk" debate. I think you don't see the political part because you're not a jerk, which is a fantastic thing. I'm saying "a large chunk of people are jerks and have historically used these kinds of policies to be jerks to me and others like me, so it's probably a bad policy." The problem is that sometimes the jerks have support. Sometimes the managers are jerks as well. Sometimes their managers, too. It happens. I don't like it, it shouldn't happen: but it happens.