> Either way in my mind you are putting yourself above the poor little people, who are in such misery. You do not think they are trying to do what's best for th

> Either way in my mind you are putting yourself above the poor little people, who are in such misery. You do not think they are trying to do what's best for them? They are responsible for their own fortune and many of their children actually make it. I don't understand that logic. I am not putting myself above anyone, just stating a fact. And the fact is that a was majority of immigrants are indeed doing their best and trying to make it, but they have neither the same starting point nor the same chance like locals. They had it harder at every step, in school someone called Mahmet get on overage 1/2 lower note in German than Max, given the same performance immigrant children are less likely to get recommendation for Gymnasium. Someon with foreign name will have more issues searching for an apartment to rent, get less invitations for a job interview, and even be paid less for the same job, where we will hit the glass ceiling and not be promoted above a certain level. Don't get me wrong, this is not specific to Germany, and this is not a simple issue, but let's not pretend that it doesn't exist. Yes, many people make it, but not because Germany is so egalitarian society, but despite all those issues.