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> Well fuck them. Mentioning your partner is not political, it's conversation. Indeed. That’s why the policy is bad: it tilts the field in favor of someone act

> Well fuck them. Mentioning your partner is not political, it's conversation. Indeed. That’s why the policy is bad: it tilts the field in favor of someone acting like this. Because now we first must counter-claim “it’s not politics to mention my husband” and win that fight, and then move on to “and you’re harassing me by weaponizing the politics policy.” If anti-gay views weren’t legitimately held up as political views by about half the country, this wouldn’t be nearly so bad.

koonsolo 5y ago
I don't see the political part in this. If I was gay and somebody would respond to me like that, I would instantly ask "Do you have a problem with me having a husband? Where were you living the last couple of decades? Are you some muslim extremist or something?" Keep it light and funny, and tear the bastard apart. It doesn't need to turn into a political debate, it needs to turn into a "you're a jerk" debate.
- drewbug01 5y ago
  > I don't see the political part in this > it needs to turn into a "you're a jerk" debate. I think you don't see the political part because you're not a jerk, which is a fantastic thing. I'm saying "a large chunk of people are jerks and have historically used these kinds of policies to be jerks to me and others like me, so it's probably a bad policy." The problem is that sometimes the jerks have support. Sometimes the managers are jerks as well. Sometimes their managers, too. It happens. I don't like it, it shouldn't happen: but it happens.
  - koonsolo 5y ago
    You have more experience than me of course, so I believe you. It's a sad thing that we are still only at this level.
    - drewbug01 5y ago
      Indeed, it is sad. But hey, progress does happen, even if it's slow. I'm not incredibly morose about it all the time, or anything - just cautious about losing some of that progress.

koonsolo 5y ago

I don't see the political part in this. If I was gay and somebody would respond to me like that, I would instantly ask "Do you have a problem with me having a husband? Where were you living the last couple of decades? Are you some muslim extremist or something?" Keep it light and funny, and tear the bastard apart. It doesn't need to turn into a political debate, it needs to turn into a "you're a jerk" debate.

drewbug01 5y ago
> I don't see the political part in this > it needs to turn into a "you're a jerk" debate. I think you don't see the political part because you're not a jerk, which is a fantastic thing. I'm saying "a large chunk of people are jerks and have historically used these kinds of policies to be jerks to me and others like me, so it's probably a bad policy." The problem is that sometimes the jerks have support. Sometimes the managers are jerks as well. Sometimes their managers, too. It happens. I don't like it, it shouldn't happen: but it happens.
- koonsolo 5y ago
  You have more experience than me of course, so I believe you. It's a sad thing that we are still only at this level.
  - drewbug01 5y ago
    Indeed, it is sad. But hey, progress does happen, even if it's slow. I'm not incredibly morose about it all the time, or anything - just cautious about losing some of that progress.