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> "Hey Jodie, my partner and I are marching in a Gay pride parade this weekend, wanna come?" (Is that political at Basecamp?) How about Jodie says, "No thanks"

> "Hey Jodie, my partner and I are marching in a Gay pride parade this weekend, wanna come?" (Is that political at Basecamp?) How about Jodie says, "No thanks" "Aw, why not?" "Not really my thing" "What, do you have a problem with gay people?" I mean I see that as likely as any outcome from that conversation starter.

DoctorOW 6y ago
See that to me is the strawman... "No thanks" > "Aw, why not?" > "Not really my thing" and then the next line would be something like "It's a lot of fun" or "Straight/Cis allies are totally welcome" and if Jodie was like me the response is "I'm sure, but I just don't want to" and that's the end of it. There is an oft-repeated idea that non-queer people are getting in any way harassed to alter their lifestyle by threat of accusations of homophobia, despite being unfounded.
- cbnotfromthere 6y ago
  > See that to me is the strawman... > "No thanks" That's where anything that NOT harassment should actually stop. >> "Aw, why not?" >> "Not really my thing" > and then the next line would be something like "It's a > lot of fun" or "Straight/Cis allies are totally welcome" So now they are indirectly asked if they are allies or not. Amazing! > > and if Jodie was like me the response is "I'm sure, > > but I just don't want to" and that's the end of it. > There is an oft-repeated idea that non-queer people > are getting in any way harassed to alter their > lifestyle by threat of accusations of homophobia, > despite being unfounded. You are LITERALLY describing harassment while, at the same time, claiming this kind of harassment does not exist. Let's see if your claim is falsifiable or not. Let's imagine a few similar scenarios: 1) a Muslim coworker inviting a Trans to a community Iftar at his local mosque. 2) a meat lover inviting a "vegan ally" to his family barbeque. 3) a 62-yo coworker inviting an 18-yo intern to his AA meeting. Hope you get the point.

DoctorOW 6y ago

See that to me is the strawman... "No thanks" > "Aw, why not?" > "Not really my thing" and then the next line would be something like "It's a lot of fun" or "Straight/Cis allies are totally welcome" and if Jodie was like me the response is "I'm sure, but I just don't want to" and that's the end of it. There is an oft-repeated idea that non-queer people are getting in any way harassed to alter their lifestyle by threat of accusations of homophobia, despite being unfounded.

cbnotfromthere 6y ago
> See that to me is the strawman... > "No thanks" That's where anything that NOT harassment should actually stop. >> "Aw, why not?" >> "Not really my thing" > and then the next line would be something like "It's a > lot of fun" or "Straight/Cis allies are totally welcome" So now they are indirectly asked if they are allies or not. Amazing! > > and if Jodie was like me the response is "I'm sure, > > but I just don't want to" and that's the end of it. > There is an oft-repeated idea that non-queer people > are getting in any way harassed to alter their > lifestyle by threat of accusations of homophobia, > despite being unfounded. You are LITERALLY describing harassment while, at the same time, claiming this kind of harassment does not exist. Let's see if your claim is falsifiable or not. Let's imagine a few similar scenarios: 1) a Muslim coworker inviting a Trans to a community Iftar at his local mosque. 2) a meat lover inviting a "vegan ally" to his family barbeque. 3) a 62-yo coworker inviting an 18-yo intern to his AA meeting. Hope you get the point.