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> Batteries that have lost 25% of their maximum capacity is probably no longer useful in a car Here in NZ people are importing "cheap" used Nissan Leafs from J

> Batteries that have lost 25% of their maximum capacity is probably no longer useful in a car Here in NZ people are importing "cheap" used Nissan Leafs from Japan with 75% battery remaining. Here a 5 year old, 60,000km Leaf, with 76% battery remaining sells for around US$13,000.

headmelted 6y ago
This. Also, if the capacity drops enough that the range really isn’t useful to you (and you can’t sell it on to anyone else who has lower range needs), just park it up in your garage or driveway and wire it back in to your mains electricity. No blackouts ever again and half-rate electricity on nighttime tarriffs. Bargain.
- elcritch 6y ago
  Bonus quest: make a simple conversion kit to do this.
cameldrv 6y ago
If it's a Leaf, losing 25% of the range may make the battery no longer useful, because the Leaf's range is just barely adequate for many people. If it's a Tesla with a 300+ mile range, assuming the owner has a home charger, the difference in range really only matters on long road trips, and 225 miles is still adequate to drive long distances, albeit more slowly. The owner is not likely to replace the pack at this level of degradation.
- Taniwha 6y ago
  Bullshit - I live in NZ, we've bought one of those 2nd hand Japanese Leafs, ours was at ~80% which gives us roughly a 100km range if charged 100% (we charge to 80%, which is better for the battery, besides we live on top of a hill) - it's a great around town car, what we bought it for, we've never run out of charge, always slow charge at home for cents compared with the other car (a Prius)
  - teruakohatu 6y ago
    I am the OP, can you send me an email, my address is in my profile, I would like to ask you some questions about your car.
  - cameldrv 6y ago
    Like I said, it “may make the battery no longer useful, because the Leaf's range is just barely adequate for many people.” Great for you if it works in your circumstances. For others it doesn’t and I don’t see what the need for the hostility is. Not everyone is exactly like you.

headmelted 6y ago

This. Also, if the capacity drops enough that the range really isn’t useful to you (and you can’t sell it on to anyone else who has lower range needs), just park it up in your garage or driveway and wire it back in to your mains electricity. No blackouts ever again and half-rate electricity on nighttime tarriffs. Bargain.

elcritch 6y ago
Bonus quest: make a simple conversion kit to do this.

cameldrv 6y ago

If it's a Leaf, losing 25% of the range may make the battery no longer useful, because the Leaf's range is just barely adequate for many people. If it's a Tesla with a 300+ mile range, assuming the owner has a home charger, the difference in range really only matters on long road trips, and 225 miles is still adequate to drive long distances, albeit more slowly. The owner is not likely to replace the pack at this level of degradation.

Taniwha 6y ago
Bullshit - I live in NZ, we've bought one of those 2nd hand Japanese Leafs, ours was at ~80% which gives us roughly a 100km range if charged 100% (we charge to 80%, which is better for the battery, besides we live on top of a hill) - it's a great around town car, what we bought it for, we've never run out of charge, always slow charge at home for cents compared with the other car (a Prius)
- teruakohatu 6y ago
  I am the OP, can you send me an email, my address is in my profile, I would like to ask you some questions about your car.
- cameldrv 6y ago
  Like I said, it “may make the battery no longer useful, because the Leaf's range is just barely adequate for many people.” Great for you if it works in your circumstances. For others it doesn’t and I don’t see what the need for the hostility is. Not everyone is exactly like you.