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I am not sure how you got from "(responce <= stern talking to) implies !(severity >= criminal harassment)" to "(severity < criminal harassment) implies (responc

by a1369209993 6y ago

I am not sure how you got from "(responce <= stern talking to) implies !(severity >= criminal harassment)" to "(severity < criminal harassment) implies (responce <= stern talking to)"[0] via good-faith misinterpretation. If they're making a nuisance of themselves at school, the school would presumably give them a detention, with repeat offences eventually resulting in expulsion. If they're making a nuisance of themselves elsewhere, the school is not involved. (Note that the latter applies to criminal actions as well; that's what the police are for.) 0: That is, from "X implies Y" to "Y implies X".

nl 6y ago
You seem to be making a bright line distinction between "at school" and "not at school". This distinction doesn't really exist. Does "school" include virtual learning environments? School sports? Travelling to and from school or sports? Bullying that extends from school to out of school? Traditionally, schools have always been responsible for these things or have taken actions that occurred out of school grounds into account. I finished school in the early 1990s and students were expelled then for graffiti attacks out of the school, out if school hours, not in school uniform. I don't see what is different or new here.
- a1369209993 6y ago
  > I don't see what is different or new here. That's fair as far as it goes, but I'm not claiming it's different or new; I'm claiming it's bad and needs to be stopped. > Does "school" include virtual learning environments? School sports? Travelling to and from school or sports? Probably. Probably. Debatably and depends on the mode of transport. > Bullying that extends from school to out of school? That's two items; yes to the former, no to the latter.
foobarian 6y ago
> with repeat offences eventually resulting in expulsion Expulsion is not really on the table, at least in the U.S.

nl 6y ago

You seem to be making a bright line distinction between "at school" and "not at school". This distinction doesn't really exist. Does "school" include virtual learning environments? School sports? Travelling to and from school or sports? Bullying that extends from school to out of school? Traditionally, schools have always been responsible for these things or have taken actions that occurred out of school grounds into account. I finished school in the early 1990s and students were expelled then for graffiti attacks out of the school, out if school hours, not in school uniform. I don't see what is different or new here.

a1369209993 6y ago
> I don't see what is different or new here. That's fair as far as it goes, but I'm not claiming it's different or new; I'm claiming it's bad and needs to be stopped. > Does "school" include virtual learning environments? School sports? Travelling to and from school or sports? Probably. Probably. Debatably and depends on the mode of transport. > Bullying that extends from school to out of school? That's two items; yes to the former, no to the latter.

foobarian 6y ago

> with repeat offences eventually resulting in expulsion Expulsion is not really on the table, at least in the U.S.