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We already have a solution for the issues you described, HR. Defiling work communication channels with political opinions only serves to distract, deride, and
by lindy2021 5y ago
We already have a solution for the issues you described, HR.
Defiling work communication channels with political opinions only serves to distract, deride, and divide.
- kalleboo 5y agoHR is on your employer's side and in most companies gets nothing done aside from avoiding liability. As a European person, I'd say keep the political discussion to your union. Unions also often have much better political affiliation and can make things happen on a broader scale.
- villasv 5y ago> We already have a solution for the issues you described, HR. Surely you must be joking.
- lindy2021 5y agoIf you don't trust your employer's HR department, then why did you accept the position?
- BoDlulu 5y agoBecause "do I trust HR?" (a question to which the answer is almost certainly always "no, but it doesn't matter in most cases"), is only one minor criteria amongst a vast plethora of other important ones when deciding to join a company or not?
- DiNovi 5y agoHR exists to protect the company not the individual
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- Uyuxo 5y agoWhat kind of a question is that? The first and foremost function of HR is to protect the company, you have no reason to trust them. And who even has such a deep insight into the HR of a company at the time of your hiring that they decide whether to take the job or not based on that info?
- jakelazaroff 5y agoWhy would you trust any employer’s HR department? Their job is to reduce the company’s liability, not help you with your problems.
- astrange 5y agoIf you're hiring people or using your employer benefits their job is to help you with that.
- lindy2021 5y ago> is our company discriminating, even unintentionally and do our LGBT and minority employees feel as safe and valued as our straight cis white employees This is an HR responsibility. You either trust them to avoid and eliminate discrimination or you don't.
- hedora 5y agoWith what authority will HR eliminate discrimination? At a minimum, they’d need to stop accepting employee referrals (how can they tell if the referrals biased?) and take over the technical interview process. Also, what happens when an exec elsewhere in the company discriminates against someone? Will HR have the power to unilaterally fire the exec? The CEO? The chairman of the board? How would they even detect the discrimination? Sadly, declaring that one division of a company will eliminate discrimination doesn’t work. You need the whole company to pull together, though realistically, that won’t work either. Society as a whole has to decide to solve the problem. Looping around to the article, one of the political parties passed hundreds of bills to disenfranchise minority voters; arguing that minorities should have basic rights is (in the US, at least) politically controversial. Charitably, I hope the goal is to force my values on the employees, and silence dissent (no bigoted discussions at work). Invoke Godwin’s Law, and… Done.
- lindy2021 5y agoYou're hired to produce value, not instigate political change. If your goal is to "force my values on the employees, and silence dissent (no bigoted discussions at work)", then go start your own company (although your demands best describe a cult).
- Spooky23 5y agoIf you do, why were you offered a position?
- dylan604 5y agoBecause you don't truly find out how bad/toxic departments within a company are until you've been there a while.
- Igelau 5y agoI had the darkly humorous experience of meeting my HR rep for the very first time on a (pre-pandemic) video conference. Meeting agenda? I'm being fired! Of course now that we all live in Covidland, we've had horror stories of whole business units just getting a pre-recorded message that they no longer work there.
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- litoorachure 5y agoThat question doesn't really make sense in the context of a US workplace. The employee:HR relationship is fundamentally adversarial over here. HR's job is to protect the company, including from its own employees. They will throw you under the bus if it benefits the company. Most people won't run into issues with them, but if you think that someone important to the company's bottom line is behaving inappropriately and you go to HR about it, how would you expect them to react? It's a matter of incentives.
- lindy2021 5y agoWhat's the point you're trying to make? That irredeemable companies are a nightmare to work for? Well of course they are. And just like irredeemable relationships, you need to move on and improve your judgement to avoid a repeat. Bemoaning on Slack achieves nothing.
- derefr 5y agoThe point the post you're replying to was trying to make (true or not) was that US companies have this problem unilaterally — so there's no point to trying to avoid companies based on it, as long as the US is where you choose to live.
- travisjungroth 5y agoI live in Mexico and it's certainly not because I trust the police.