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I am confused why I am being downvoted?....please help me to understand why anyone would support terrorists. Would you like to be a plane that was hijacked? I

I am confused why I am being downvoted?....please help me to understand why anyone would support terrorists. Would you like to be a plane that was hijacked? If you were on a plane that was hijacked, would you praise the rescuers as heroes? This is not difficult, so why are people downvoting mentioning that terrorists belong in prison? Seriously. Do HN readers support terrorism and giving a voice to terrorists?

FridayoLeary 5y ago
"Eschew flamebait" https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html i'm inclined to agree with you but i try and hold my outrage. Things are done a bit differently here, it's not worth starting a flamewar, however correct you may be. Edit: you seem to be shadowbanned.
etrabroline 5y ago
Both sides of the Jewish-non-Jewish intra-semitic conflict in Palestine have committed or supported terrorism. Several anti-Arab Jewish supremacist terrorist organizations became part of the Israeli government upon the creation of the Jewish state in Palestine. If we were to totally ignore groups who have used terrorist tactics to achieve political objectives, there would be basically no one to talk to when it comes to this conflict. Pointing to one side or the other and shouting "terrorist" just isn't a productive discussion. I think that's what motivates most downvotes on hackernews. >The Irgun has been viewed as a terrorist organization or organization which carried out terrorist acts.[3][4][5][6] Specifically the organization "committed acts of terrorism and assassination against the British, whom it regarded as illegal occupiers, and it was also violently anti-Arab" according to the Encyclopædia Britannica.[7] In particular the Irgun was described as a terrorist organization by the United Nations, British, and United States governments >On May 14, 1948 the establishment of the State of Israel was proclaimed. The declaration of independence was followed by the establishment of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), and the process of absorbing all military organizations into the IDF started. On June 1, an agreement had been signed between Menachem Begin and Yisrael Galili for the absorption of the Irgun into the IDF. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun#Integration_with_the_IDF_and_the_Altalena_Affair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun#Integration_with_the_IDF...
- davidf18 5y ago
  Those interested in the terror that the Jews did primarily against the British should read former Israeli PM Begin's book, The Revolt [1]. Begin's Irgun and the more extreme Stern gang were denounced by the official Israeli government at the time. The largest loss of life by Irgun was the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem where the British administration had stored many files on Jews (and Arabs). The call to evacuate the building was made too late and about 90 people died, including 17 Jews. Begin would never had intentionally killed Jews, so it is recognized as a error and not by intent. Still Begin was responsible. But primarily, in The Revolt available in Kindle for $5, the Irgun attacked infrastructure such as the Haifa refinery and railroads but also attacked an airfield of British bombers blowing them up. The attacks on infrastructure is far more embarrassing to the government than targeting people. Still if you give terrorist a voice, then you open yourself to giving all terrorists a voice and I don't think governments would be open to that idea. The Jewish terrorists of Irgun never sought to kill innocent women and children. [1] The Revolt: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HXJ5N9E/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HXJ5N9E/
MikeUt 5y ago
> I am confused why I am being downvoted?....please help me to understand why anyone would support terrorists. Talking to terrorists does not imply supporting them. And I don't want Zoom or the US or Israeli governments deciding who I may speak with.
- davidf18 5y ago
  The Chinese have a great problem with terrorism and I find it likely that Zoom which has its servers in China, are not interested in antagonizing them by giving a voice to a hijacker.
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FridayoLeary 5y ago

"Eschew flamebait" https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html i'm inclined to agree with you but i try and hold my outrage. Things are done a bit differently here, it's not worth starting a flamewar, however correct you may be. Edit: you seem to be shadowbanned.

etrabroline 5y ago

Both sides of the Jewish-non-Jewish intra-semitic conflict in Palestine have committed or supported terrorism. Several anti-Arab Jewish supremacist terrorist organizations became part of the Israeli government upon the creation of the Jewish state in Palestine. If we were to totally ignore groups who have used terrorist tactics to achieve political objectives, there would be basically no one to talk to when it comes to this conflict. Pointing to one side or the other and shouting "terrorist" just isn't a productive discussion. I think that's what motivates most downvotes on hackernews. >The Irgun has been viewed as a terrorist organization or organization which carried out terrorist acts.[3][4][5][6] Specifically the organization "committed acts of terrorism and assassination against the British, whom it regarded as illegal occupiers, and it was also violently anti-Arab" according to the Encyclopædia Britannica.[7] In particular the Irgun was described as a terrorist organization by the United Nations, British, and United States governments >On May 14, 1948 the establishment of the State of Israel was proclaimed. The declaration of independence was followed by the establishment of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), and the process of absorbing all military organizations into the IDF started. On June 1, an agreement had been signed between Menachem Begin and Yisrael Galili for the absorption of the Irgun into the IDF. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun#Integration_with_the_IDF_and_the_Altalena_Affair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun#Integration_with_the_IDF...

davidf18 5y ago
Those interested in the terror that the Jews did primarily against the British should read former Israeli PM Begin's book, The Revolt [1]. Begin's Irgun and the more extreme Stern gang were denounced by the official Israeli government at the time. The largest loss of life by Irgun was the bombing of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem where the British administration had stored many files on Jews (and Arabs). The call to evacuate the building was made too late and about 90 people died, including 17 Jews. Begin would never had intentionally killed Jews, so it is recognized as a error and not by intent. Still Begin was responsible. But primarily, in The Revolt available in Kindle for $5, the Irgun attacked infrastructure such as the Haifa refinery and railroads but also attacked an airfield of British bombers blowing them up. The attacks on infrastructure is far more embarrassing to the government than targeting people. Still if you give terrorist a voice, then you open yourself to giving all terrorists a voice and I don't think governments would be open to that idea. The Jewish terrorists of Irgun never sought to kill innocent women and children. [1] The Revolt: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HXJ5N9E/ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HXJ5N9E/

MikeUt 5y ago

> I am confused why I am being downvoted?....please help me to understand why anyone would support terrorists. Talking to terrorists does not imply supporting them. And I don't want Zoom or the US or Israeli governments deciding who I may speak with.

davidf18 5y ago
The Chinese have a great problem with terrorism and I find it likely that Zoom which has its servers in China, are not interested in antagonizing them by giving a voice to a hijacker.

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