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First wearing either t-shirt is no way to approach these subjects as they are very nuanced. Dispelling a myth here, the Bible doesn't actually say "women aren'
by kokanator 5y ago
First wearing either t-shirt is no way to approach these subjects as they are very nuanced.
Dispelling a myth here, the Bible doesn't actually say "women aren't supposed to hold seniority over men". It is true that it has been used in this manner and interpreted by certain organizations as such. Strong lined Complementarianism [0] espouse this belief.
However, the conclusion is not supported by the text and context nor by the rest of the Bible. [1]
To use a verse already quoted here Galatians 3:28. "There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus". This verse has everything to do with equality and nothing to do with the topic it was used for elsewhere in this thread. ( read it in context and you will see ).
I know I may get flamed/down voted for this but it is extremely important.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complementarianism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complementarianism
[1] https://almostheretical.com/episodes/authority-over-a-man https://almostheretical.com/episodes/authority-over-a-man
- chillwaves 5y agoIs there really a point in arguing over the Bible?
- kokanator 5y agoI do think it is important to challenge an off the cuff comment which is not backed up by specific knowledge or reference. Especially if that comment perpetuates an idea that leads to disparaging people. The comment thread was specifically regarding religion so it is entirely applicable and important. There are plenty of examples on HN where religious documents other than the Bible or the Pentateuch are discussed. [0][1][2] Religion and/or the lack thereof impacts our culture and politics in outstanding ways. To ignore them or not discuss them leaves us blind to significant reasonings that have built the world we live in today. [0] https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C5GCEM_en&q=site:news.ycombinator.com+Quran https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C5GCEM_en&q=site:news.yco... [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Anews.ycombinator.com+Sutra https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Anews.ycombinator.com+... [2] https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Anews.ycombinator.com+Vedas https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Anews.ycombinator.com+...
- JohnBooty 5y agoIn the micro, it certainly isn't. I mean, at least in the context of HN or the workplace. In the macro, it's relevant to issues of school/workplace speech in the sense that it's good to remember that major religions are awfully large tents and represent a wide plurality of beliefs. Christianity is not necessarily synonymous with any particular belief regarding gender, etc. The same could be said of other major world religions. I'm an atheist and therefore don't have a horse in this race. But it's one reason why merely identifying as belonging to a religion is fine in the workplace, whereas espousing specific religious beliefs that disparage others is a problem.