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Yet driving deaths are the leading cause of death in older children and young adults. It's not that we're bad at driving, I suppose, it's that we do an awful l

Yet driving deaths are the leading cause of death in older children and young adults. It's not that we're bad at driving, I suppose, it's that we do an awful lot of it and it's quite a risky activity - especially if you're not 100% engaged. That being said, if the US cared about road safety, there's quite a lot they could do to improve it already. Many techniques have been used successfully in other countries to significantly reduce road deaths, for example, a nationwide vehicle safety inspection standard and lowering speeds on urban roads. The fact that these aren't being done leads me to think the concerns about road safety are actually rather irrelevant for the country as a whole. When self driving cars exist and are convenient, people probably will switch to them, as long as the accident rate is vaguely comparable.

Alupis 6y ago
> Yet driving deaths are the leading cause of death in older children and young adults. All vehicle-related deaths in the US average around 32,000 annually, of which about 50% of those are alcohol and/or drug related, leaving the true accidental vehicular death number around 15,000 annually. The problem we're trying to solve with FSD just doesn't exist at the levels FSD proponents would have you believe. Humans are incredibly safe drivers when you account for the number of people driving, and the number of miles driven per year.
- mattnewton 6y ago
  I’m not sure you can remove any driving deaths as alcohol or drug related. A hypothetical FSD system would be a solution to those deaths too, and as long as you are driving on the same road as everyone else, abstaining from them yourself still puts you at risk.
- ghaff 6y ago
  And if everyone drove modern high-end cars with the best assistive driving systems, especially as those improve to something approaching FSD on highways (or even achieve on certain highways in certain conditions) over the coming few years, it would be better still.

Alupis 6y ago

> Yet driving deaths are the leading cause of death in older children and young adults. All vehicle-related deaths in the US average around 32,000 annually, of which about 50% of those are alcohol and/or drug related, leaving the true accidental vehicular death number around 15,000 annually. The problem we're trying to solve with FSD just doesn't exist at the levels FSD proponents would have you believe. Humans are incredibly safe drivers when you account for the number of people driving, and the number of miles driven per year.

mattnewton 6y ago
I’m not sure you can remove any driving deaths as alcohol or drug related. A hypothetical FSD system would be a solution to those deaths too, and as long as you are driving on the same road as everyone else, abstaining from them yourself still puts you at risk.
ghaff 6y ago
And if everyone drove modern high-end cars with the best assistive driving systems, especially as those improve to something approaching FSD on highways (or even achieve on certain highways in certain conditions) over the coming few years, it would be better still.