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>Your adulation of those musicians is a direct consequence of your embedding in a cultural context that you seem blissfully unaware of. As someone whose musica
by layoutIfNeeded 5y ago
>Your adulation of those musicians is a direct consequence of your embedding in a cultural context that you seem blissfully unaware of.
As someone whose musical taste spans from classical composers to jazz pioneers, from early Chicago house to ceremonial flute music from Indonesia, I can only smirk at your comment.
Mozart's sister's talent may have been suppressed, or she might have been content with her life, we will never know. By judging the actions of 18th century Germans, it is in fact you who seem to be unaware of the modern cultural context that you're embedded into. Modern American morals are neither universal, nor ultimate. Thinking that they are in fact is the colonialist attitude. You should rethink that!
>Attitudes like yours hold back the development of a more equitable society. You should rethink them.
Sweetie, don't try to shove a narrative where there's none, this isn't Twitter. Noone argued against your "equitable" society or whatever. I've just pointed out a fallacy in the distasteful opening of the original article, namely, that early electronic musicians (some of whom happened to be women), weren't sidelined in favor of Mozart, Beethoven or Elvis. Rather, people simply preferred those kinds of music over their experimental bleep bloops.
And don't try to derail the conversation with deconstructionist "arguments", such that people's preference for 19th century classical composers, or rock music over early experimental electronics stems from some internalized colonialist heteronormative bias, because that's bollocks. Sure, art is subjective, and if someone was raised by a pack of wolves then they would likely prefer the sound of howling over Beethoven's 9th symphony, yet I seriously doubt that early electronic musicians (yes, some of whom happened to be women) would have reached wider audiences even if women weren't historically disadvantaged. This is simply not a question of gender.
- antonvs 5y ago> Mozart's sister's talent may have been suppressed, or she might have been content with her life, we will never know. Oh yes, we have no possible way of knowing whether women's talent was historically suppressed. It's a mystery for the ages indeed. Your own comments are a perfect demonstration of the phenomenon you're denying. > By judging the actions of 18th century Germans, it is in fact you who seem to be unaware of the modern cultural context that you're embedded into. Modern American morals are neither universal, nor ultimate. I'm not an American. And I suppose I should accept that you're embedded in a deeply sexist culture, and have a vested interest in maintaining that. But really, you could at least be a bit self-aware about it. > Sweetie Lol. You're quite the master debater.
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