7 ms·
Model 3 is a premium sedan ? Oh :/ Where are my paint color options, ventilated seats ? What about parts for my local car shop ? Did they forgot the safety fe
by ERD0L 5y ago
Model 3 is a premium sedan ?
Oh :/
Where are my paint color options, ventilated seats ?
What about parts for my local car shop ?
Did they forgot the safety features unique to german cars ?
- brianwawok 5y agoNow compare 0-60 and infotainment systems. Is premium how fast the car goes, or how many paint colors it comes in? Different people have different requirements. You are likely paying over 100k to get a car as fast as a model 3.
- thrwyoilarticle 5y ago>You are likely paying over 100k to get a car as fast as a model 3. Define fast
- 11thEarlOfMar 5y agoI believe they are talking about 0-60 times. Model 3 Performance in Track mode is #12 in this list[0]. The least you can pay for this version is $55k. #13 is a Jaguar XE SV Project at $188k #11 is a Bentley Bentayga at $160,000 #10 is an Acura NSX at $157,000 [0] https://www.motortrend.com/news/quickest-cars-motortrend-2019/ https://www.motortrend.com/news/quickest-cars-motortrend-201...
- nixass 5y ago> Now compare 0-60 What is this, kindergarten?
- ProAm 5y agoIt's still not a premium car.
- DeRock 5y agoPremium is defined by price, not your desired feature set.
- t0mas88 5y agoI think most people define premium by the build quality, interior design, options etc. But if you want to only define it by price, then the model 3 is definitely not in the premium segment. It's a very cheap car... So much so that I know a few people that literally joke at a white model 3 company lease as "your consulting job must suck"
- 11thEarlOfMar 5y agoFWIW, I drove a BMW 328i for 20 years. Paid $39,000 for it. Put 230,000 miles on it. I loved that car dearly. I replaced it with a Model 3 and put 70,000 miles on it so far. Paid $49,000 for it, which is in the mid-point of what you'd pay for a new 328i. It's even more fun to drive, with operating costs at about 1/4 the BMW.
- ProAm 5y agoThe model 3 looks like a $25,000 car when you buy it new though, and that's my problem with it.
- brianwawok 5y ago25k cars don’t have the sound system nor performance nor screens of a 3. Let’s sit side by side with a civic and compare...
- 11thEarlOfMar 5y agoI agree. Among other things, it's not shaped like other cars. I found the nose off-putting when I first saw the prototypes, and I was really skeptical about the display and mounting in the center of the cabin. In all sincerity, after reading through the comments, it seems to me that the folks making negative claims are picking specific things they don't like, or relating what they've heard about the car. I expect that if they spent a week driving it in place of their current pony, they'd change their opinion. The overall experience is better than any other car I've driven. Also, there are for sure people who simply don't care about the driving experience itself and see cars as nothing more than transportation. For them, I also can see the a Tesla would have much less appeal.
- missedthecue 5y agoPremium sedan, not sports car. E classes do not and have never competed on 0-60 times
- ogre_codes 5y ago“Premium Sedan” includes a lot of things. BMW certainly classifies driving performance as part of that. As does Lexus. Mercedes has it’s own performance models. Now if you wanted to argue that the Tesla Model 3/Y aren’t “Luxury Sedans”, I think you have a point. Not so much for the reasons you list, but because the ride is harsher than the Mercedes. But then, some BMWs have a similar ride so it’s hard to say.
- burmanm 5y agoPremium sedan has nothing to do with 0-100 km/h times. Those don't differ between segments. What Model 3 lacks is quality interior and options.
- towergratis 5y agoIt's in the same price bucket. If in your opinion is not a premium sedan, it's all more impressive.
- TomVDB 5y agoLet's not forget impossibly advanced German car user interfaces, such as trackpad to gesture individual characters to spell a word!
- judge2020 5y agoFor reference: https://youtu.be/_aV91djgwEc https://youtu.be/_aV91djgwEc I'm astonished this made it to production. Red tape and bureaucracy means nobody is willing to push back against a feature that is bad and potentially dangerous (maybe not any more dangerous than touchscreens though).
- kaba0 5y ago> maybe not any more dangerous than touchscreens though Maybe not any more dangerous than fancy lane control marketed as full self driving...
- oblio 5y agoAcura is German, not Japanese, you're not replying to the correct comment, I think. Also, Acura's trackpad or whatever just needs a cursor. I wonder why they didn't think of that.
- nixass 5y agoAcura is luxury division of Honda, and headquartered both from the Japan and USA
- oblio 5y agoDamn, I can't edit my comment. I meant that Acura is Japanese, not German. I wrote the comment the other way around :-( Regarding headquarters, true, but it's still a division of Honda, which most people would consider a Japanese company.
- TomVDB 5y agoMy 2018 Audi has the same braindead touchpad interface. It's completely unusable.
- nick_kline 5y agoThere are few repairs needed so parts don't matter ;-) More seriously I do hope that there can be third party access to shop manuals and repairs though.
- canada_dry 5y ago> Model 3 is a premium sedan ? I'm with you. It's certainly a premium price, but (IMHO) it really shouldn't be considered "premium" on overall build quality or accoutrements.