Are you sure about that? You get a ton from a batteries included framework, but it doesn't prevent from successfully building a complex system, nor does it prec

Are you sure about that? You get a ton from a batteries included framework, but it doesn't prevent from successfully building a complex system, nor does it preclude you from having to reason through the powerful footguns. The way I'd describe it is that /most/ codebases can fit into what you'd call a "web app" including most codebases that include complex systems -- there are, of course, significant exceptions.