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5G on Dual Sim is a useful update, prior to this it was only possible to have 5G on one of the accounts (The hardware SIM, I think was the default not the eSIM)

vmception 6y ago
They finally did it!? I had resigned to thinking they got screwed with bad hardware from qualcomm
- enos_feedler 6y ago
  Apple has communicated this limitation since the beginning and said when it was coming.
  - vmception 6y ago
    > said when it was coming ehhhh there was a lot of uncertainty around that. they just said a future update and it wasn't on time. I had my doubts and other people had their doubts, dual sim modes have been neglected for some time and there are still several limitations in iOS that make it seem like its not much of a priority. until the last few incremental updates you can tell from Apple's own communications on their forums that they thought of Dual Sim as more of a temporary traveller's use case, with them popping in a local sim card in different countries here and there. As opposed to someone that doesn't want to bother with two phones (or a handicapped VoIP number that also wouldn't have an iCloud account) and just always has two numbers in the same country. They are catching on, but the skepticism is there and they are incrementally fixing it successfully.
Hamuko 6y ago
Are people actually on 5G?
- BBC-vs-neolibs 6y ago
  I am, not sure how common that is. But only when downtown.
- martin_ 6y ago
  Yes - I live in Austin on Verizon and it often shows 5G but is usually slower than my AT&T LTE was in San Francisco -- however -- occasionally I get 5G Ultra Wideband and got 1915mbps down this weekend https://i.imgur.com/BuQF13Y.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BuQF13Y.jpg
  - ascagnel_ 6y ago
    The phone will show 5G when you're a carrier w/ a 5G network in the area, even if the phone itself is on a 4G network. The phone will choose to stay on the 4G network if it's trying to stay in a lower-power mode (eg: fetching notifications & emails in the background), and will dynamically jump to 5G on an as-needed basis.
    - jaywalk 6y ago
      Can you point to any official documentation on this? From all of my testing, I have not found this to be the case.
      - ascagnel_ 6y ago
        From the official support document for the Smart Data feature: > 5G Auto: Enables Smart Data mode. When 5G speeds don’t provide a noticeably better experience, your iPhone automatically switches to LTE, saving battery life. Having used an iPhone 12 in an area with 5G service, I haven’t yet noticed the phone reporting LTE speeds, but given the way the statement above is worded (‘noticeably better’ is doing a lot of heavy lifting), I wouldn’t be surprised if the phone is mostly on LTE when it’s sitting idle or when I’m doing something like web browsing or music streaming that’s otherwise well within the capabilities of an LTE network. [0] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211828 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211828
- Tsiklon 6y ago
  In the part of London I live in there's 5G available when I walk to the local shops - my network is Three UK. My secondary sim is EE, they also have a 5G network too, but i'm not completely certain where it's present
- janandonly 6y ago
  Sure. Here in Holland 5G from t-mobile is super fast too. We get 300Mbit down and 60Mbit up, easily.... I should remark though, that I used to get 200Mbit down anyways on 4G, only the upload was a lot slower..
- treesknees 6y ago
  Yes, I use Verizon and my iPhone 12 regularly connects to 5G around my house and work in South East Michigan. I haven't noticed it being any faster than LTE when running speed tests, but I'm sure it will get better over time once they're no longer running in a hybrid deployment.
samrolken 6y ago
5G on eSIM with Verizon worked great for me when it was all I had or it’s the only one enabled. 5G wouldn’t work at all on either line if both SIMs were in use.
TechBro8615 6y ago
Nice. When I bought my iPhone 12 Mini this was a feature I specifically wanted. I saw them mentioning it was a software issue only, so it's great to see they solved it and followed through.

vmception 6y ago

They finally did it!? I had resigned to thinking they got screwed with bad hardware from qualcomm

enos_feedler 6y ago
Apple has communicated this limitation since the beginning and said when it was coming.
- vmception 6y ago
  > said when it was coming ehhhh there was a lot of uncertainty around that. they just said a future update and it wasn't on time. I had my doubts and other people had their doubts, dual sim modes have been neglected for some time and there are still several limitations in iOS that make it seem like its not much of a priority. until the last few incremental updates you can tell from Apple's own communications on their forums that they thought of Dual Sim as more of a temporary traveller's use case, with them popping in a local sim card in different countries here and there. As opposed to someone that doesn't want to bother with two phones (or a handicapped VoIP number that also wouldn't have an iCloud account) and just always has two numbers in the same country. They are catching on, but the skepticism is there and they are incrementally fixing it successfully.

Hamuko 6y ago

Are people actually on 5G?

BBC-vs-neolibs 6y ago
I am, not sure how common that is. But only when downtown.
martin_ 6y ago
Yes - I live in Austin on Verizon and it often shows 5G but is usually slower than my AT&T LTE was in San Francisco -- however -- occasionally I get 5G Ultra Wideband and got 1915mbps down this weekend https://i.imgur.com/BuQF13Y.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BuQF13Y.jpg
- ascagnel_ 6y ago
  The phone will show 5G when you're a carrier w/ a 5G network in the area, even if the phone itself is on a 4G network. The phone will choose to stay on the 4G network if it's trying to stay in a lower-power mode (eg: fetching notifications & emails in the background), and will dynamically jump to 5G on an as-needed basis.
  - jaywalk 6y ago
    Can you point to any official documentation on this? From all of my testing, I have not found this to be the case.
    - ascagnel_ 6y ago
      From the official support document for the Smart Data feature: > 5G Auto: Enables Smart Data mode. When 5G speeds don’t provide a noticeably better experience, your iPhone automatically switches to LTE, saving battery life. Having used an iPhone 12 in an area with 5G service, I haven’t yet noticed the phone reporting LTE speeds, but given the way the statement above is worded (‘noticeably better’ is doing a lot of heavy lifting), I wouldn’t be surprised if the phone is mostly on LTE when it’s sitting idle or when I’m doing something like web browsing or music streaming that’s otherwise well within the capabilities of an LTE network. [0] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211828 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211828
Tsiklon 6y ago
In the part of London I live in there's 5G available when I walk to the local shops - my network is Three UK. My secondary sim is EE, they also have a 5G network too, but i'm not completely certain where it's present
janandonly 6y ago
Sure. Here in Holland 5G from t-mobile is super fast too. We get 300Mbit down and 60Mbit up, easily.... I should remark though, that I used to get 200Mbit down anyways on 4G, only the upload was a lot slower..
treesknees 6y ago
Yes, I use Verizon and my iPhone 12 regularly connects to 5G around my house and work in South East Michigan. I haven't noticed it being any faster than LTE when running speed tests, but I'm sure it will get better over time once they're no longer running in a hybrid deployment.

samrolken 6y ago

5G on eSIM with Verizon worked great for me when it was all I had or it’s the only one enabled. 5G wouldn’t work at all on either line if both SIMs were in use.

TechBro8615 6y ago

Nice. When I bought my iPhone 12 Mini this was a feature I specifically wanted. I saw them mentioning it was a software issue only, so it's great to see they solved it and followed through.