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An award show that goes hard core on insulting half the country in every speech while winning awards for movies that often have a very limited audience and they

An award show that goes hard core on insulting half the country in every speech while winning awards for movies that often have a very limited audience and they wonder why people don't watch. They mystique is gone, we see these folks every day in aspects of our lives not limited to entertainment. What's special about this ceremony anyway?

ku-man 5y ago
"What's special about this ceremony anyway" Pretty people, pretty dresses, (happiness?). Things you will never experience with your 9.5 $/hour salary.
tyre 5y ago
> goes hard core on insulting half the country in every speech What are you referring to?
- kickout 5y ago
  Assuming you are asking in good faith: I am guessing they are referring to Hollywood generally having a liberal political mindset and many things the left has been championing lately have been upsetting the right. Basically more evidence of our society being hyper-politicized or perceiving it that way.
  - Apocryphon 5y ago
    Sometimes it feels like everyone in the past five years have forgotten about the Bush years. The political polarization in pop culture was just as pronounced then, with Fox News attacking Hollywood as antiwar traitors, Hollywood films skewering Evangelicals as fanatics, etc. The culture wars then were just as bitter and seemingly unbridgeable it they are now, we just didn't see it unfolding in realtime yet. Usually you'd have to wait for a pingback from your Blogspot articles first.
    - kickout 5y ago
      Mostly true. I remember the Bush years well. I agree the instantaneous feedback of social media was in its infancy or non-existent so there was a modicum of civility to people's arguments/disagreements. The talk radio pundits and cable tv people were probably 1 or 2 level shy of 'extreme' whereas we're 1 or 2 levels _over_ extreme these day--on both sides. I could be misremembering though.
      - Apocryphon 5y ago
        I remember flipping between Free Republic/Pajamas Media and Democratic Underground/DailyKos and just seeing two irrevocably irreconcilable echo chambers. But those forums and blogs were populated by smaller numbers of diehards. Now we’re all in our own echo chambers, it would seem.
    - dillondoyle 5y ago
      Remember the dixie chicks!?! talk about cancel culture ffs
- kokanator 5y ago
  It is tiring to watch a show that is supposed to be about entertainment but rather is a 2 hour lecture ( often demeaning ) on liberal politics from a bunch of millionaires patting each other on the back. It bears no distinct difference from turning on say CNN or MSNBC which you can watch any day of the week. Not to mention the shear amount of hypocrisy ( if anyone cares about that ). There is nothing unique or interesting about it.
  - specialist 5y ago
    When is speech, art, culture not political?
    - kokanator 5y ago
      When does an acceptance speech have nothing to do with the award you are receiving? To say everything is political is an easy out. The point is the awards show is supposed to be about the films and to acknowledge those who made it possible not political speeches given in the guise of an acceptance speech.
      - Apocryphon 5y ago
        The Oscars have always had this to some degree, though. https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/feb/25/before-oscarssowhite-five-previous-academy-awards-controversies https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/feb/25/before-oscarsso...
    - mezentius 5y ago
      Often. Speech, art, and culture do typically encompass politics, because politics are a social activity and therefore a primary concern of the humanities. But the argument that these things are therefore inherently political is specious, and (in my opinion) a product of the increasingly facile approach to the interpretation of art and culture in education that focuses exclusively on the teasing-out of supposed hidden messages and ideologies. (Twitter doesn't help, either.) In mirroring our lives, art and culture encompass layers of complex action and symbols that cannot be reduced to a singular message or call for political action. They are the process by which we sift through an opaque mixture of confusion and contradiction every day, searching for meaning. However, if you wanted to argue that award shows are inherently political, I'd probably agree.

ku-man 5y ago

"What's special about this ceremony anyway" Pretty people, pretty dresses, (happiness?). Things you will never experience with your 9.5 $/hour salary.

tyre 5y ago

> goes hard core on insulting half the country in every speech What are you referring to?

kickout 5y ago
Assuming you are asking in good faith: I am guessing they are referring to Hollywood generally having a liberal political mindset and many things the left has been championing lately have been upsetting the right. Basically more evidence of our society being hyper-politicized or perceiving it that way.
- Apocryphon 5y ago
  Sometimes it feels like everyone in the past five years have forgotten about the Bush years. The political polarization in pop culture was just as pronounced then, with Fox News attacking Hollywood as antiwar traitors, Hollywood films skewering Evangelicals as fanatics, etc. The culture wars then were just as bitter and seemingly unbridgeable it they are now, we just didn't see it unfolding in realtime yet. Usually you'd have to wait for a pingback from your Blogspot articles first.
  - kickout 5y ago
    Mostly true. I remember the Bush years well. I agree the instantaneous feedback of social media was in its infancy or non-existent so there was a modicum of civility to people's arguments/disagreements. The talk radio pundits and cable tv people were probably 1 or 2 level shy of 'extreme' whereas we're 1 or 2 levels _over_ extreme these day--on both sides. I could be misremembering though.
    - Apocryphon 5y ago
      I remember flipping between Free Republic/Pajamas Media and Democratic Underground/DailyKos and just seeing two irrevocably irreconcilable echo chambers. But those forums and blogs were populated by smaller numbers of diehards. Now we’re all in our own echo chambers, it would seem.
  - dillondoyle 5y ago
    Remember the dixie chicks!?! talk about cancel culture ffs
kokanator 5y ago
It is tiring to watch a show that is supposed to be about entertainment but rather is a 2 hour lecture ( often demeaning ) on liberal politics from a bunch of millionaires patting each other on the back. It bears no distinct difference from turning on say CNN or MSNBC which you can watch any day of the week. Not to mention the shear amount of hypocrisy ( if anyone cares about that ). There is nothing unique or interesting about it.
- specialist 5y ago
  When is speech, art, culture not political?
  - kokanator 5y ago
    When does an acceptance speech have nothing to do with the award you are receiving? To say everything is political is an easy out. The point is the awards show is supposed to be about the films and to acknowledge those who made it possible not political speeches given in the guise of an acceptance speech.
    - Apocryphon 5y ago
      The Oscars have always had this to some degree, though. https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/feb/25/before-oscarssowhite-five-previous-academy-awards-controversies https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/feb/25/before-oscarsso...
  - mezentius 5y ago
    Often. Speech, art, and culture do typically encompass politics, because politics are a social activity and therefore a primary concern of the humanities. But the argument that these things are therefore inherently political is specious, and (in my opinion) a product of the increasingly facile approach to the interpretation of art and culture in education that focuses exclusively on the teasing-out of supposed hidden messages and ideologies. (Twitter doesn't help, either.) In mirroring our lives, art and culture encompass layers of complex action and symbols that cannot be reduced to a singular message or call for political action. They are the process by which we sift through an opaque mixture of confusion and contradiction every day, searching for meaning. However, if you wanted to argue that award shows are inherently political, I'd probably agree.