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They're idiot cultists, they won't listen to facts.

pritambaral 5y ago
Such radical generalisation isn't helping anyone. It contributes nothing but discouragement at best, and spite and bile at worst, to the conversation. Twitter is nearly a lost cause; let's not turn this place into that too. I have plainly put forth evidence and openly asked for evidence. Emotional outrage is not a fair return.
- staticassertion 5y ago
  The evidence is all out there in the open, I've linked and quoted repeatedly throughout here, and there's a link in the header to UMN's response. The bias is so blatant, as always - the Linux community continues to refuse to hold maintainers accountable. If people can't be bothered to read the evidence I'm not going to continue to discuss this in good faith.
  - pritambaral 5y ago
    > The evidence is all out there in the open But, clearly, not everyone is reading the same things. How could they? Humans aren't a hivemind. I understand that other people can have read different things than I have, that they can have a different view of things than I do, so I present my side of the argument with the evidence that I can find. Even given the same evidence, I understand that other people can have different interpretations of them, so I present my interpretations while asking for theirs, in the hope that they're sensible people. > I've linked and quoted repeatedly throughout here Your discourse with me here has consisted solely of you calling me names (specifically, "idiot cultist") and complaining about other people. Other people that you passive-aggressively lump me into. > there's a link in the header to UMN's response. Plenty have seen and read it. I don't know what point you're trying to make by alluding to a curt announcement that can be reduced to "we've paused the research group's activities and are looking into the matter". Or perhaps you meant to point to the professor's response instead of UMN's. You and I clearly aren't reading it the same way, but I did not bring it up in our discussion and I do not want to now because I do not believe you are being sensible here. > The bias is so blatant, as always - the Linux community continues to refuse to hold maintainers accountable. Whatever their crimes are, your behaviour here has been unmitigably worse, and you refuse to hold yourself accountable. > If people can't be bothered to read the evidence I'm not going to continue to discuss this in good faith. You haven't been. But, what's worse, you've been trying to prevent others (like me and the person you replied to when you called me an "idiot cultist") from doing so as well.
- nuclearnice1 5y ago
  I posted the evidence above but you didn’t really engage with it much. Do you think Aditya was acting in bad faith?

Such radical generalisation isn't helping anyone. It contributes nothing but discouragement at best, and spite and bile at worst, to the conversation. Twitter is nearly a lost cause; let's not turn this place into that too. I have plainly put forth evidence and openly asked for evidence. Emotional outrage is not a fair return.

staticassertion 5y ago
The evidence is all out there in the open, I've linked and quoted repeatedly throughout here, and there's a link in the header to UMN's response. The bias is so blatant, as always - the Linux community continues to refuse to hold maintainers accountable. If people can't be bothered to read the evidence I'm not going to continue to discuss this in good faith.
- pritambaral 5y ago
  > The evidence is all out there in the open But, clearly, not everyone is reading the same things. How could they? Humans aren't a hivemind. I understand that other people can have read different things than I have, that they can have a different view of things than I do, so I present my side of the argument with the evidence that I can find. Even given the same evidence, I understand that other people can have different interpretations of them, so I present my interpretations while asking for theirs, in the hope that they're sensible people. > I've linked and quoted repeatedly throughout here Your discourse with me here has consisted solely of you calling me names (specifically, "idiot cultist") and complaining about other people. Other people that you passive-aggressively lump me into. > there's a link in the header to UMN's response. Plenty have seen and read it. I don't know what point you're trying to make by alluding to a curt announcement that can be reduced to "we've paused the research group's activities and are looking into the matter". Or perhaps you meant to point to the professor's response instead of UMN's. You and I clearly aren't reading it the same way, but I did not bring it up in our discussion and I do not want to now because I do not believe you are being sensible here. > The bias is so blatant, as always - the Linux community continues to refuse to hold maintainers accountable. Whatever their crimes are, your behaviour here has been unmitigably worse, and you refuse to hold yourself accountable. > If people can't be bothered to read the evidence I'm not going to continue to discuss this in good faith. You haven't been. But, what's worse, you've been trying to prevent others (like me and the person you replied to when you called me an "idiot cultist") from doing so as well.
nuclearnice1 5y ago
I posted the evidence above but you didn’t really engage with it much. Do you think Aditya was acting in bad faith?