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> To bypass travel restrictions, nominees and their guests have been designated “essential workers”. I don't even know what to say to this. Designated by whom?

> To bypass travel restrictions, nominees and their guests have been designated “essential workers”. I don't even know what to say to this. Designated by whom? The whole expansion of essential work from medicine and food and literal essentials all the way to, well, the oscars has been a joke. We're in this awful middle ground of half-assed extreme measures. They're watered down enough to not stamp things out, but still followed enough to make us all miserable. It's the perfect anti-sweet-spot that maximizes the combination of virus spread and misery. Instead, we get this never-ending bucket of misery because everyone thinks they're an exception or just an insignificant single drop in the ocean.

grecy 6y ago
> Designated by whom? The biggest marketing department in the world - Hollywood. It's an enormous profit generating machine and won't let silly travel restrictions get in the way.
- ku-man 6y ago
  Hollywood is also the most successful exporter of American culture and values.
matz1 6y ago
This is why travel restrictions or “essential workers" designation are ridiculous. It doesn't help, only mostly cause misery.
koolba 6y ago
> I don't even know what to say to this. I do: fuck em’ These are the same people that wouldn’t let businesses open up for outdoor dining while studios were allowed to bring in catering services right next door: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/us/outdoor-dining-la-protest.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/us/outdoor-dining-la-prot... These are the same people that ban you from outdoor dining yet they have no issue with gathering indoors: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-03/skelton-edd-inmate-unemployment-fraud-scandal-french-laundry-embarassment https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-03/skelton-... I’m sure I’d never agree with everything an elected leader does, but I’ll have a lot more respect for the choices if they’re enforced uniformly and, in particular, if they apply them to their own lives.
- nicbou 6y ago
  We had many similar double standards in Berlin. At the height of the Super Serious Measures, flower shops remain open. Then it's Christmas tree kiosks or bookstores. Churches were hardly ever affected. In any case, enforcement is nearly non-existent. It makes you feel like a chump for following the rules. It cheapens the sense of emergency they try to communicate.
- giantg2 6y ago
  "...if they’re enforced uniformly and, in particular, if they apply them to their own lives." Yet prosecutorial discretion ensures that the people in the system all look out for each other by only applying the laws to those who 'deserve' it. Welcome to the oligarchy that has been disguised as democracy.
- nickthemagicman 6y ago
  To be fair, even though Hollywood Harvey Weinsteined Covid restrictions , the government is who ultimately gave them the pass. The government deserves a little bit of the blame for this
- thedanbob 6y ago
  I'm applying for US naturalization and studying for the civics test. #12 in the question pool seems particularly relevant right now: Question: What is the "rule of law"? Suggested answers: Everyone must follow the law | Leaders must obey the law | Government must obey the law | No one is above the law
  - geoduck14 6y ago
    Wait... is the answer 1 or 4?
    - thedanbob 6y ago
      The test is short answer, so any of those or something similar.
paxys 6y ago
By LA county. Not joking – they were essential workers because they were deemed essential for the production of the Oscars TV show. Everyone in attendance had some role to play and was shown on camera at least once.
- 6gvONxR4sf7o 6y ago
  God that's infuriating. If they're going to define essential that circularly, then it's meaningless. It reminds me of the uber/lyft AB5 laws, where they designed a test for independent contractor vs employee, and then exempted basically every industry from the test, one by one. Here, they defined essential workers vs unessential workers, and then exempted more and more industries, one by one, until it's meaningless.
  - geoduck14 6y ago
    I work for a large bank. Banking is "essential", so ALL employees are "essential". Fwiw, I'm a software engineer and I've been working remotely. I have NO need to travel.

grecy 6y ago

> Designated by whom? The biggest marketing department in the world - Hollywood. It's an enormous profit generating machine and won't let silly travel restrictions get in the way.

ku-man 6y ago
Hollywood is also the most successful exporter of American culture and values.

matz1 6y ago

This is why travel restrictions or “essential workers" designation are ridiculous. It doesn't help, only mostly cause misery.

koolba 6y ago

> I don't even know what to say to this. I do: fuck em’ These are the same people that wouldn’t let businesses open up for outdoor dining while studios were allowed to bring in catering services right next door: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/us/outdoor-dining-la-protest.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/05/us/outdoor-dining-la-prot... These are the same people that ban you from outdoor dining yet they have no issue with gathering indoors: https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-03/skelton-edd-inmate-unemployment-fraud-scandal-french-laundry-embarassment https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-03/skelton-... I’m sure I’d never agree with everything an elected leader does, but I’ll have a lot more respect for the choices if they’re enforced uniformly and, in particular, if they apply them to their own lives.

nicbou 6y ago
We had many similar double standards in Berlin. At the height of the Super Serious Measures, flower shops remain open. Then it's Christmas tree kiosks or bookstores. Churches were hardly ever affected. In any case, enforcement is nearly non-existent. It makes you feel like a chump for following the rules. It cheapens the sense of emergency they try to communicate.
giantg2 6y ago
"...if they’re enforced uniformly and, in particular, if they apply them to their own lives." Yet prosecutorial discretion ensures that the people in the system all look out for each other by only applying the laws to those who 'deserve' it. Welcome to the oligarchy that has been disguised as democracy.
nickthemagicman 6y ago
To be fair, even though Hollywood Harvey Weinsteined Covid restrictions , the government is who ultimately gave them the pass. The government deserves a little bit of the blame for this
thedanbob 6y ago
I'm applying for US naturalization and studying for the civics test. #12 in the question pool seems particularly relevant right now: Question: What is the "rule of law"? Suggested answers: Everyone must follow the law | Leaders must obey the law | Government must obey the law | No one is above the law
- geoduck14 6y ago
  Wait... is the answer 1 or 4?
  - thedanbob 6y ago
    The test is short answer, so any of those or something similar.

paxys 6y ago

By LA county. Not joking – they were essential workers because they were deemed essential for the production of the Oscars TV show. Everyone in attendance had some role to play and was shown on camera at least once.

6gvONxR4sf7o 6y ago
God that's infuriating. If they're going to define essential that circularly, then it's meaningless. It reminds me of the uber/lyft AB5 laws, where they designed a test for independent contractor vs employee, and then exempted basically every industry from the test, one by one. Here, they defined essential workers vs unessential workers, and then exempted more and more industries, one by one, until it's meaningless.
- geoduck14 6y ago
  I work for a large bank. Banking is "essential", so ALL employees are "essential". Fwiw, I'm a software engineer and I've been working remotely. I have NO need to travel.