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The web apps are super interesting. Its light and fast. On par with the desktop client. Meanwhile, Facebook Messenger takes eons to load, Discord's web client's

The web apps are super interesting. Its light and fast. On par with the desktop client. Meanwhile, Facebook Messenger takes eons to load, Discord's web client's initial load will hog up my CPU. It will be interesting to see the technology behind this. edit: Links for those interested Web Z: https://github.com/Ajaxy/telegram-tt https://github.com/Ajaxy/telegram-tt web K: https://github.com/morethanwords/tweb https://github.com/morethanwords/tweb

f311a 5y ago
Telegram team has a long history of using vanilla javascript as optimal as possible. It all started at VK.
- capableweb 5y ago
  "vanilla javascript" usually refers to something like manipulating the DOM directly, without using frameworks, transpiled languages and similar. Both of them seems to be using a bunch of different tech, from typescript to wasm, jsx and more, not sure I'd call that vanilla javascript. On a second note, I'm surprised that both the new web versions are so similar. Seems just a couple of margins changed and other minor changes (profile picture filling the background vs being a centered circle for example), but built differently. Wonder if they both worked towards the same design maybe? Edit: found explanations to the multiple-codebases behavior further down: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26943653 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26943653
  - f311a 5y ago
    They had a contest with requirements to the codebase: https://contest.com/javascript-web-3 https://contest.com/javascript-web-3
    - 3v1n0 5y ago
      Wow and each submission can be opened..
    - samat 5y ago
      this is gold. thank you!
  - aszen 5y ago
    i think both of them are not using any framework, one of them uses an inhouse library which resembles react but overall i would say it's pretty vanilla (as in no frontend frameworks)
    - capableweb 5y ago
      You might be right in the first half, but TypeScript (which they seem to be built in mostly) is not vanilla JavaScript, no matter what library or frameworks you use.

f311a 5y ago

Telegram team has a long history of using vanilla javascript as optimal as possible. It all started at VK.

capableweb 5y ago
"vanilla javascript" usually refers to something like manipulating the DOM directly, without using frameworks, transpiled languages and similar. Both of them seems to be using a bunch of different tech, from typescript to wasm, jsx and more, not sure I'd call that vanilla javascript. On a second note, I'm surprised that both the new web versions are so similar. Seems just a couple of margins changed and other minor changes (profile picture filling the background vs being a centered circle for example), but built differently. Wonder if they both worked towards the same design maybe? Edit: found explanations to the multiple-codebases behavior further down: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26943653 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26943653
- f311a 5y ago
  They had a contest with requirements to the codebase: https://contest.com/javascript-web-3 https://contest.com/javascript-web-3
  - 3v1n0 5y ago
    Wow and each submission can be opened..
  - samat 5y ago
    this is gold. thank you!
- aszen 5y ago
  i think both of them are not using any framework, one of them uses an inhouse library which resembles react but overall i would say it's pretty vanilla (as in no frontend frameworks)
  - capableweb 5y ago
    You might be right in the first half, but TypeScript (which they seem to be built in mostly) is not vanilla JavaScript, no matter what library or frameworks you use.