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It's amazing to see how much care and work is put in to efforts like these by people who clearly care about what they're doing. If corporate America had their

It's amazing to see how much care and work is put in to efforts like these by people who clearly care about what they're doing. If corporate America had their way, those records would have had DRM, there'd have been half a dozen different formats, and they'd have stopped working after twenty years. A silly example, but looking at how records are preserved today, then imagining how media of today might be preserved for a century from now, should be something we think about when we're choosing what to buy, yet most people keep buying from companies that just disable our media whenever it benefits them.

syoc 6y ago
This made me remember what happened with what.cd. Never had an account myself, but I feel like we truly have failed to a common, lasting, platform for storing arbitrary data. bittorrent was ahead of it's time, the tech is IMO really cool. It is just too bad that it does not really make anyone rich and thus cannot be accepted.
- MrDOS 6y ago
  https://archive.org/details/whatcdcrawl https://archive.org/details/whatcdcrawl Although I doubt there's anything in there that isn't also in the Goodbye Release: https://twitter.com/whatcd/status/923941782253121539 https://twitter.com/whatcd/status/923941782253121539 > I feel like we truly have failed to a common, lasting, platform for storing arbitrary data. As wonderful as What.CD was, and as much of a void as it left, it wasn't that. I'm increasingly convinced that any general purpose metadata store is going to be insufficiently granular for true specialists, while conversely, most specialist metadata stores are going to be overwhelming for a casual user. For example, What.CD's most successful successor has not one, not two, not seven, but forty-two different releases of Wish You Were Here. And even that is a small portion of the 768 versions listed on Discogs[0]. But does a casual user even care? Hell no. They'll keep listening to the CD they got at Wal-Mart some time in the mid-'90s, happily, and none the wiser. This only becomes a problem when, eventually, there is something that casual user does care deeply about – model trains, or Funko Pop! figures – but they're turned off (or banned) from contributing the site because they got in a flame war with a moderator over the omission of one particular re-release of Star Wars: Episode V. Über-metadata sites are either insufficiently granular (see: Wikipedia), insufficiently well-curated (see: Internet Archive), or inaccessible (in both meanings of the word; see: the hypothetical combination of all specialist, private filesharing sites). [0]: https://www.discogs.com/Pink-Floyd-Wish-You-Were-Here/master/11703 https://www.discogs.com/Pink-Floyd-Wish-You-Were-Here/master...

syoc 6y ago

This made me remember what happened with what.cd. Never had an account myself, but I feel like we truly have failed to a common, lasting, platform for storing arbitrary data. bittorrent was ahead of it's time, the tech is IMO really cool. It is just too bad that it does not really make anyone rich and thus cannot be accepted.

MrDOS 6y ago
https://archive.org/details/whatcdcrawl https://archive.org/details/whatcdcrawl Although I doubt there's anything in there that isn't also in the Goodbye Release: https://twitter.com/whatcd/status/923941782253121539 https://twitter.com/whatcd/status/923941782253121539 > I feel like we truly have failed to a common, lasting, platform for storing arbitrary data. As wonderful as What.CD was, and as much of a void as it left, it wasn't that. I'm increasingly convinced that any general purpose metadata store is going to be insufficiently granular for true specialists, while conversely, most specialist metadata stores are going to be overwhelming for a casual user. For example, What.CD's most successful successor has not one, not two, not seven, but forty-two different releases of Wish You Were Here. And even that is a small portion of the 768 versions listed on Discogs[0]. But does a casual user even care? Hell no. They'll keep listening to the CD they got at Wal-Mart some time in the mid-'90s, happily, and none the wiser. This only becomes a problem when, eventually, there is something that casual user does care deeply about – model trains, or Funko Pop! figures – but they're turned off (or banned) from contributing the site because they got in a flame war with a moderator over the omission of one particular re-release of Star Wars: Episode V. Über-metadata sites are either insufficiently granular (see: Wikipedia), insufficiently well-curated (see: Internet Archive), or inaccessible (in both meanings of the word; see: the hypothetical combination of all specialist, private filesharing sites). [0]: https://www.discogs.com/Pink-Floyd-Wish-You-Were-Here/master/11703 https://www.discogs.com/Pink-Floyd-Wish-You-Were-Here/master...