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I can't imagine why you're being downvoted, for a well-balanced, educative post with full disclosure. No wait, I can - and it sucks.

acdha 5y ago
Here I thought it was from portraying Ethereum as solving the problems with Bitcoin but hand waving past the part where that’s remained vaporware for years and making the same kind of unspecified claims about innovative useful things Bitcoin salespeople have been making for the last decade. It should be easy to point to something real if it is that different.
shkkmo 5y ago
I did not learn anything from that post, it mostly read as an advertisement for ETH and the linked websites. If you are going to toute the actual legitimate use cases for blockchain, please name at least one.
- eric_cc 5y ago
  Not OP but the easiest one: De-Fi
  - acdha 5y ago
    Can you explain in detail? Citing sources for claimed benefits over the established services it’s replicating?
    - eric_cc 5y ago
      Sure, if you compensate me for my time and effort in doing so. I'll compile a report for you for 0.0037 sats.
      - acdha 5y ago
        I'll take that as “no”, then. I mean, you're the salesguy popping into the thread to say we should all buy in to something, you might need a better pitch if you want to get rich that way.
        eric_cc 5y ago
        I never said you should buy anything. And certainly never in my life have I tried to sell a crypto. Why would I? I enjoy discussing how crypto is going to change the world because I genuinely believe it will. A move away from everything being centralized is a good thing in my opinion. edit: just to add on - would you call somebody who was excited about the Internet in 1995 a salesman? Just because I have an easy time seeing where crypto is heading and am excited about it should not be considered "salesman" behavior.
        shkkmo 5y ago
        Weren't you just trying to charge people to discuss with them how cryptocurrencies will change the world? That sounds much less like an ethusiast and much more like a salesman.
        eric_cc 5y ago
        It was a sarcastic reply to the request the poster made of me but I guess that humor was lost on you. Why on earth would I spend the time and effort to write up a well sourced research paper to satisfy some random request on hacker news?
        shkkmo 5y ago
        > Why on earth would I spend the time and effort to write up a well sourced research paper to satisfy some random request on hacker news? According to your own words: Because you are trying to explain your position and enjoy talking about it.
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      - robjan 5y ago
        0.0037sats is currently US$0.00000197. We have a deal but I'll transfer another currency since the transaction fee is several orders of magnitude greater than your quoted price.
        eric_cc 5y ago
        Your math is way off.
        robjan 5y ago
        Not sure what kind of expertise I am buying with those sats. 1btc = 100million sats.
        eric_cc 5y ago
        Try to type the following into Google: “0.0037 btc to usd”
        robjan 5y ago
        You said sats, not btc. It's a pointless argument.
        eric_cc 5y ago
        Ooooh I see and you’re correct. My mistake.
  - throwaheyy 5y ago
    That’s still a handwavy theoretical category of vaporware. Not one concrete example of a tangible application where “de-fi” replaced a previous technology with a better solution?
colpabar 5y ago
>Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. [1] (emphasis mine) The comments section is for discussion, why not discuss? [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- argvargc 5y ago
  This is simply wrong. I frequently see comments on comment downvoting causing a reconsideration and reopening of closed discussions, resulting in discussion value. Whether this was achieved or not in this case is debatable, but that doesn't nullify the base premise. (OTOH, quoting forum rules is almost universally boring. ;))

acdha 5y ago

Here I thought it was from portraying Ethereum as solving the problems with Bitcoin but hand waving past the part where that’s remained vaporware for years and making the same kind of unspecified claims about innovative useful things Bitcoin salespeople have been making for the last decade. It should be easy to point to something real if it is that different.

shkkmo 5y ago

I did not learn anything from that post, it mostly read as an advertisement for ETH and the linked websites. If you are going to toute the actual legitimate use cases for blockchain, please name at least one.

eric_cc 5y ago
Not OP but the easiest one: De-Fi
- acdha 5y ago
  Can you explain in detail? Citing sources for claimed benefits over the established services it’s replicating?
  - eric_cc 5y ago
    Sure, if you compensate me for my time and effort in doing so. I'll compile a report for you for 0.0037 sats.
    - acdha 5y ago
      I'll take that as “no”, then. I mean, you're the salesguy popping into the thread to say we should all buy in to something, you might need a better pitch if you want to get rich that way.
      - eric_cc 5y ago
        I never said you should buy anything. And certainly never in my life have I tried to sell a crypto. Why would I? I enjoy discussing how crypto is going to change the world because I genuinely believe it will. A move away from everything being centralized is a good thing in my opinion. edit: just to add on - would you call somebody who was excited about the Internet in 1995 a salesman? Just because I have an easy time seeing where crypto is heading and am excited about it should not be considered "salesman" behavior.
        shkkmo 5y ago
        Weren't you just trying to charge people to discuss with them how cryptocurrencies will change the world? That sounds much less like an ethusiast and much more like a salesman.
        eric_cc 5y ago
        It was a sarcastic reply to the request the poster made of me but I guess that humor was lost on you. Why on earth would I spend the time and effort to write up a well sourced research paper to satisfy some random request on hacker news?
        shkkmo 5y ago
        > Why on earth would I spend the time and effort to write up a well sourced research paper to satisfy some random request on hacker news? According to your own words: Because you are trying to explain your position and enjoy talking about it.
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    - robjan 5y ago
      0.0037sats is currently US$0.00000197. We have a deal but I'll transfer another currency since the transaction fee is several orders of magnitude greater than your quoted price.
      - eric_cc 5y ago
        Your math is way off.
        robjan 5y ago
        Not sure what kind of expertise I am buying with those sats. 1btc = 100million sats.
        eric_cc 5y ago
        Try to type the following into Google: “0.0037 btc to usd”
        robjan 5y ago
        You said sats, not btc. It's a pointless argument.
        eric_cc 5y ago
        Ooooh I see and you’re correct. My mistake.
- throwaheyy 5y ago
  That’s still a handwavy theoretical category of vaporware. Not one concrete example of a tangible application where “de-fi” replaced a previous technology with a better solution?

colpabar 5y ago

>Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. [1] (emphasis mine) The comments section is for discussion, why not discuss? [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

argvargc 5y ago
This is simply wrong. I frequently see comments on comment downvoting causing a reconsideration and reopening of closed discussions, resulting in discussion value. Whether this was achieved or not in this case is debatable, but that doesn't nullify the base premise. (OTOH, quoting forum rules is almost universally boring. ;))