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> google created a negative feedback loop with the web Friendly note: this may be a "negative" (i.e. bad) effect, but it is not a negative feedback loop. A neg

> google created a negative feedback loop with the web Friendly note: this may be a "negative" (i.e. bad) effect, but it is not a negative feedback loop. A negative feedback loop is a part of a system that self-corrects back toward a stable position. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_feedback https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_feedback

cblconfederate 6y ago
the negative feedback is that any attempt to create quality, non-seo content is punished by being ranked low and so we revert to average/low quality of over-SEOed but low signal content. Like other users have noticed, publishing a good recipe is not enough, you have to fill it up with useless fluff. and you have to make pretty URLs . And add meta the tags This happens for tech advice too, like linux solutions etc
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- gowld 6y ago
  SEO content is a positive feedback loop.
  - 6gvONxR4sf7o 6y ago
    That would imply there isn't an equilibrium.
    - pushrax 6y ago
      And in this case, the equilibrium is some amount of AI-bait fluff. There's a limit, beyond which continuing to add more fluff does not produce higher results.
      - ErikVandeWater 6y ago
        It's a dynamic equilibrium. The constant is bullshit, but the means of delivery vary.
PoignardAzur 6y ago
I think OP meant "the system always gets back to the status quo where suggestions are near-useless", hence a negative feedback loop.
omgwtfbyobbq 6y ago
So a negative positive feedback loop?
- dhdc 6y ago
  Just positive feedback loop. The term "positive" or "negative" refers to the effects of the feedback path on the overall system, a negative feedback loop attempts to negate any changes in the outputs, while a positive feedback amplifies any changes.
  - lmkg 6y ago
    Perhaps "Vicious Cycle" and "Virtuous Cycle" is better terminology in this case. Both of them describe self-reinforcing (i.e. positive) feedback loops, while also making clear judgement on the desirability of the consequences.
  - 8note 6y ago
    Just feedback loop* Adding positive/negative on it is unnecessary specificity
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cblconfederate 6y ago

the negative feedback is that any attempt to create quality, non-seo content is punished by being ranked low and so we revert to average/low quality of over-SEOed but low signal content. Like other users have noticed, publishing a good recipe is not enough, you have to fill it up with useless fluff. and you have to make pretty URLs . And add meta the tags This happens for tech advice too, like linux solutions etc

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gowld 6y ago
SEO content is a positive feedback loop.
- 6gvONxR4sf7o 6y ago
  That would imply there isn't an equilibrium.
  - pushrax 6y ago
    And in this case, the equilibrium is some amount of AI-bait fluff. There's a limit, beyond which continuing to add more fluff does not produce higher results.
    - ErikVandeWater 6y ago
      It's a dynamic equilibrium. The constant is bullshit, but the means of delivery vary.

PoignardAzur 6y ago

I think OP meant "the system always gets back to the status quo where suggestions are near-useless", hence a negative feedback loop.

omgwtfbyobbq 6y ago

So a negative positive feedback loop?

dhdc 6y ago
Just positive feedback loop. The term "positive" or "negative" refers to the effects of the feedback path on the overall system, a negative feedback loop attempts to negate any changes in the outputs, while a positive feedback amplifies any changes.
- lmkg 6y ago
  Perhaps "Vicious Cycle" and "Virtuous Cycle" is better terminology in this case. Both of them describe self-reinforcing (i.e. positive) feedback loops, while also making clear judgement on the desirability of the consequences.
- 8note 6y ago
  Just feedback loop* Adding positive/negative on it is unnecessary specificity
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