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> Movies like The Thing, Terminator, Alien, Aliens, etc. Don't really have a political message other than some vague politics as window dressing. https://www.e
by croon 6y ago
> Movies like The Thing, Terminator, Alien, Aliens, etc. Don't really have a political message other than some vague politics as window dressing.
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a34518538/john-carpenter-2020-interview-coronavirus-trump-they-live-the-thing/ https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a34518538/john-...
https://gen.medium.com/the-scariest-thing-about-alien-is-how-real-it-s-become-fa2182d2207e https://gen.medium.com/the-scariest-thing-about-alien-is-how...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jerrybowyer/2012/06/13/the-politics-of-ridley-scotts-blockbuster-film-prometheus/?sh=60c077293e6a https://www.forbes.com/sites/jerrybowyer/2012/06/13/the-poli...
https://www.bfi.org.uk/interviews/terminator-james-cameron https://www.bfi.org.uk/interviews/terminator-james-cameron
> Give me the politics of Tetris, Pong, Super Mario, Donkey Kong
You got me. Let me rephrase it as any culture with a message.
- Ygg2 6y agoWell. What is the politics of Thing again? Paranoia can be worse than the virus? That's not what is in the movie. Most people if not all are killed by the Thing. Also that's not political, that's common sense. Terminator came to Cameron in a dream, and the rationalization was it is caused by possible nuclear crisis?
- croon 6y agoThe obscured threat doesn't have to be worse than the overt one for a parable to be applicable. In fact, almost any allegory deliberately uses fantastical imagery to illustrate a point, because it's easier to point to something when the contrasts are higher. Are you suggesting that Godzilla can't be a stand-in for Hiroshima simply because a literal Godzilla would be worse? The commentary on erosion of trust was political then and would be now, even if the backdrop has changed.
- Ygg2 6y ago> The obscured threat doesn't have to be worse than the overt one for a parable to be applicable. It has to be, if the message is that obscured threat is worse than the overt. At some point, I wonder what is really in the work, and how much is this just the critics projecting their own thoughts onto it.
- croon 6y ago> It has to be, if the message is that obscured threat is worse than the overt. The ranking doesn't matter. One is a fictional alien, the other is human interaction. If the alien virus is worse, does that negate any and all (lesser bad) commentary? Likewise, I don't bother comparing which is worse of humans or zombies in Walking Dead. The zombies are an exciting (debatable now) fictional backdrop to the anthropological exploration.