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The snobbishness around Rust repeatedly makes me reconsider if I really should be investing even more time to continue learning the language.

by q3k 6y ago

whizzter 6y ago
The core innovations were brilliant and it does seem to attract a certain kind of developers yes, that said there seems to be quite a few awesome people in the community as well so I guess the strategy is to use it where it's the best tool and not be too invested in the rest.
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justin_oaks 6y ago
I'm wondering if people are looking for Rust snobbery and finding it where it doesn't exist. This is not a dig at who I'm responding to, although the comment did trigger the thought. I interpreted the points in the article as fairly generic. The idea of "Inconvenient knowledge is better than convenient ignorance" goes well beyond Rust. The author of the article does imply that Rust does a lot of things right, but I'm curious how one could say "Hey, I like this language it does a lot of things well and fixes problems I see in other languages" without sounding like a snob.
- q3k 6y ago
  > I'm curious how one could say "Hey, I like this language it does a lot of things well and fixes problems I see in other languages" without sounding like a snob. Just not writing “Feel free to create and use languages with invisible program effects or asynchrony, and I'll feel free to not pay any attention when you do.” would do the trick in this case. Or, generally, show your reasoning, show your arguments, acknowledge any tradeoffs, contextualize against other languages as needed. And perhaps do not jump into every programming language discussion with “this wouldn't be an issue with Rust” unprompted, as that's generally not constructive, and does not acknowledge that there is more to software engineering than just what programming language you pick.
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The snobbishness around Rust repeatedly makes me reconsider if I really should be investing even more time to continue learning the language.

by q3k 6y ago

The snobbishness around Rust repeatedly makes me reconsider if I really should be investing even more time to continue learning the language.

whizzter 6y ago

The core innovations were brilliant and it does seem to attract a certain kind of developers yes, that said there seems to be quite a few awesome people in the community as well so I guess the strategy is to use it where it's the best tool and not be too invested in the rest.

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justin_oaks 6y ago

I'm wondering if people are looking for Rust snobbery and finding it where it doesn't exist. This is not a dig at who I'm responding to, although the comment did trigger the thought. I interpreted the points in the article as fairly generic. The idea of "Inconvenient knowledge is better than convenient ignorance" goes well beyond Rust. The author of the article does imply that Rust does a lot of things right, but I'm curious how one could say "Hey, I like this language it does a lot of things well and fixes problems I see in other languages" without sounding like a snob.

q3k 6y ago
> I'm curious how one could say "Hey, I like this language it does a lot of things well and fixes problems I see in other languages" without sounding like a snob. Just not writing “Feel free to create and use languages with invisible program effects or asynchrony, and I'll feel free to not pay any attention when you do.” would do the trick in this case. Or, generally, show your reasoning, show your arguments, acknowledge any tradeoffs, contextualize against other languages as needed. And perhaps do not jump into every programming language discussion with “this wouldn't be an issue with Rust” unprompted, as that's generally not constructive, and does not acknowledge that there is more to software engineering than just what programming language you pick.
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