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Situation in India is far grim than Official no. portray. Many district report only <5 Covid deaths adding to the normal death rate of 50-100. But, when you go

Situation in India is far grim than Official no. portray. Many district report only <5 Covid deaths adding to the normal death rate of 50-100. But, when you go to cremation grounds they are overflowing, platforms to burn the dead a full and bodies are being burned at sides, footpath.

logicuce 6y ago
Unfortunately, it is hard to get those numbers correctly. COVID patients die because of multiple organ failure and unless the deceased was already tested and verified for it, you can't attribute the death to COVID officially. A lot of people pass away without showing visible symptoms or without realizing they need immediate medical attention for COVID. It would be good to have that attribution and that will require testing the deceased, but given the load on the system, everybody can extrapolate the scale and act accordingly.
- asiachick 6y ago
  Can't you just compare the average death rate to the current death rate? Unfortunately this site has no data for India https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid#excess-mortality-using-raw-death-counts https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid#excess-mor...
  - logicuce 6y ago
    Exactly the point I am making. You can do the analysis and determine the scale but you can't change the official COVID numbers. In fact, that is even the link you shared shows. It compared the overall death rate with the official COVID numbers and proved the numbers are conservative, in US. Of course.
  - bishnu 6y ago
    The NYT did a deep dive in an Indian city using this methodology: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/24/world/asia/india-coronavirus-deaths.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/24/world/asia/india-coronavi... The figures are orders of magnitudes greater than what's reported.
hesarenu 6y ago
Have you seen them with your own eyes or just posting what someone else said?. These type of comments bodies burned on road sides, footpath were common last time as well.
- blackoil 6y ago
  Not by eyes, but heard from eyewitness. I know of people who are burned this way.
- mnadkvlb 6y ago
  dont know much about ground reality as i am not living in India but i saw this post (very sad, no matter if anyone is at fault or not) https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/ghaziabad-crematorium-footpath-covid-patient-bodies-7280587/ https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/ghaziabad-cre...

logicuce 6y ago

Unfortunately, it is hard to get those numbers correctly. COVID patients die because of multiple organ failure and unless the deceased was already tested and verified for it, you can't attribute the death to COVID officially. A lot of people pass away without showing visible symptoms or without realizing they need immediate medical attention for COVID. It would be good to have that attribution and that will require testing the deceased, but given the load on the system, everybody can extrapolate the scale and act accordingly.

asiachick 6y ago
Can't you just compare the average death rate to the current death rate? Unfortunately this site has no data for India https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid#excess-mortality-using-raw-death-counts https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid#excess-mor...
- logicuce 6y ago
  Exactly the point I am making. You can do the analysis and determine the scale but you can't change the official COVID numbers. In fact, that is even the link you shared shows. It compared the overall death rate with the official COVID numbers and proved the numbers are conservative, in US. Of course.
- bishnu 6y ago
  The NYT did a deep dive in an Indian city using this methodology: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/24/world/asia/india-coronavirus-deaths.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/24/world/asia/india-coronavi... The figures are orders of magnitudes greater than what's reported.

hesarenu 6y ago

Have you seen them with your own eyes or just posting what someone else said?. These type of comments bodies burned on road sides, footpath were common last time as well.

blackoil 6y ago
Not by eyes, but heard from eyewitness. I know of people who are burned this way.
mnadkvlb 6y ago
dont know much about ground reality as i am not living in India but i saw this post (very sad, no matter if anyone is at fault or not) https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/ghaziabad-crematorium-footpath-covid-patient-bodies-7280587/ https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/ghaziabad-cre...