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> I think we are really close to regular people using matrix. I wish this were true. We're not even that close to getting regular people to use Signal, at leas

by tharne 6y ago

> I think we are really close to regular people using matrix. I wish this were true. We're not even that close to getting regular people to use Signal, at least not in meaningful numbers. Perhaps your friends family are more tech-savy and privacy-focused than mine, but it's like pulling teeth to get folks away from iMessage or Whatsapp.

ungamedplayer 6y ago
I think the real trick is to stop trying to cater for 'regular' people, let them deal with the repercussions of their choices.
- tomcooks 6y ago
  No idea why you would get downvoted for stating the obvious
- lxgr 6y ago
  Do you only ever message people in your bubble? If not, the choices of ”regular people“ will inevitably also affect you.
- Vinnl 6y ago
  If no "regular" people use these, then anyone who does sticks out like a sore thumb. One of the main reasons I'm using products like this is to support journalists, whistleblowers, lawyers, etc. (Who also are "regular" people in relevant ways.)
- dunefox 6y ago
  A messenger is useless if people don't use it.
developer93 6y ago
I don't understand why people have such an issue running multiple messaging clients on the same phone. I've managed to move a large chunk of my WhatsApp friends onto signal, then block in WhatsApp to enforce the signal usage. Of course there are holdouts.
- dunefox 6y ago
  > I don't understand why people have such an issue running multiple messaging clients on the same phone. Simple: there's a messenger everyone is on. WhatsApp. There is no need to install anything else. One of my friends who studied something IT related is adamant about having only one messenger installed. It's too complicated having 2-3 and not all contacts use either of the alternatives to WhatsApp.
  - jeltz 6y ago
    Here in Sweden also everyone have multiple messengers installed due to no messenger ever reaching a critical mass. Both MSN Messenger and Skype were close at some point but neither succeeded.

by tharne 6y ago

ungamedplayer 6y ago

I think the real trick is to stop trying to cater for 'regular' people, let them deal with the repercussions of their choices.

tomcooks 6y ago
No idea why you would get downvoted for stating the obvious
lxgr 6y ago
Do you only ever message people in your bubble? If not, the choices of ”regular people“ will inevitably also affect you.
Vinnl 6y ago
If no "regular" people use these, then anyone who does sticks out like a sore thumb. One of the main reasons I'm using products like this is to support journalists, whistleblowers, lawyers, etc. (Who also are "regular" people in relevant ways.)
dunefox 6y ago
A messenger is useless if people don't use it.

developer93 6y ago

I don't understand why people have such an issue running multiple messaging clients on the same phone. I've managed to move a large chunk of my WhatsApp friends onto signal, then block in WhatsApp to enforce the signal usage. Of course there are holdouts.

dunefox 6y ago
> I don't understand why people have such an issue running multiple messaging clients on the same phone. Simple: there's a messenger everyone is on. WhatsApp. There is no need to install anything else. One of my friends who studied something IT related is adamant about having only one messenger installed. It's too complicated having 2-3 and not all contacts use either of the alternatives to WhatsApp.
- jeltz 6y ago
  Here in Sweden also everyone have multiple messengers installed due to no messenger ever reaching a critical mass. Both MSN Messenger and Skype were close at some point but neither succeeded.