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> I've spoken with several people working directly with the homeless And somehow this makes you an expert or informed on the matter? > 95% of the people on th

> I've spoken with several people working directly with the homeless And somehow this makes you an expert or informed on the matter? > 95% of the people on the street are not from SF This is likely the case for every metro in the world. And? > well known that SF has drug tourists Facts and research, please. You seem keen to peddle the homeless as drug-addled perpetrators stereotype.

bifrost 6y ago
Yes, speaking with experts makes one informed. Even the Mayor of SF has talked about how SF has drug tourists and how they need to be prevented from receiving services. You don't seem to be very informed about SF.
- tomnipotent 6y ago
  Every single public service is abused by some percentage of people using it. So? The mayor holding a press conference or speaking to the press to score points doesn't make it any more credible than the Reagan's bullshit about drugs in the 80s. I'm not interested in the incredibly small percentage of people exploiting the system that isn't helping them in the first place, but the large percentage of homeless - transient or long term - that need services but are fought every part of the way by ignorance like this.
  - bifrost 6y ago
    Its not an incredibly small number of people exploiting the system, its 95% of people in this system.
    - tomnipotent 6y ago
      > its 95% of people in this system Pulling numbers out of thin air doesn't make them true.
      - bifrost 6y ago
        That number came from an expert. They also asserted that if our local DA actually did something about dealing on the streets we'd lose that same number of homeless people and they'd return to wherever they came from before SF, or go to Oakland. SF has turned itself into an "attractive nuisance" due to our unchecked open air drug markets.
        tomnipotent 6y ago
        > That number came from an expert. I'm sure it did, and it's not just completely made up with absolutely no corroborating evidence to back it up.

bifrost 6y ago

Yes, speaking with experts makes one informed. Even the Mayor of SF has talked about how SF has drug tourists and how they need to be prevented from receiving services. You don't seem to be very informed about SF.

tomnipotent 6y ago
Every single public service is abused by some percentage of people using it. So? The mayor holding a press conference or speaking to the press to score points doesn't make it any more credible than the Reagan's bullshit about drugs in the 80s. I'm not interested in the incredibly small percentage of people exploiting the system that isn't helping them in the first place, but the large percentage of homeless - transient or long term - that need services but are fought every part of the way by ignorance like this.
- bifrost 6y ago
  Its not an incredibly small number of people exploiting the system, its 95% of people in this system.
  - tomnipotent 6y ago
    > its 95% of people in this system Pulling numbers out of thin air doesn't make them true.
    - bifrost 6y ago
      That number came from an expert. They also asserted that if our local DA actually did something about dealing on the streets we'd lose that same number of homeless people and they'd return to wherever they came from before SF, or go to Oakland. SF has turned itself into an "attractive nuisance" due to our unchecked open air drug markets.
      - tomnipotent 6y ago
        > That number came from an expert. I'm sure it did, and it's not just completely made up with absolutely no corroborating evidence to back it up.