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I haven’t read anywhere that said that the Moderna developer was shat on because of her gender. What I read was that the scientific establishment didn’t believe

by babesh 5y ago

I haven’t read anywhere that said that the Moderna developer was shat on because of her gender. What I read was that the scientific establishment didn’t believe that there could be a viable delivery mechanism. So please don’t use that as evidence to push your point. You are arguing with emotion here instead of facts. There have definitely been minorities, women, etc... that were driven out of science and some work that should have been more recognized. From what I can tell, the people doing the driving out are actually the nobodies. The nobodies are taking the mantle of moral outrage and weaponizing it to drive out people who disagree with them.

ncmncm 5y ago
Apparently you have not read any histories of her work. And, obviously it is and always was the nobodies and has-beens driving out people who would shake things up. It has always been easiest to blight the careers of outsiders. The people working are busy, you know, working. The majority of them are obviously not minorities. There is plenty of competition for scarce placements, grants, and facilities, and everyone needs all available boosts to get enough of all of those just to work. We need to ensure all of these available boosts are for quality work.
- babesh 5y ago
  You show your bias. You don't know what I have read. I have read histories of her work. Several in fact. Get your facts straight instead of trying to hide them in the name of your narrative. Here is the person you are speaking of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katalin_Karikó https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katalin_Karikó I knew that she was demoted for not showing progress. How would I know that? The key tech was encapsulating the RNA in a lipid shell. How would I know that? I also know that her daughter was an Olympian rower. How would I know that? This work was touted in the press for months because it was the basis for the two RNA based vaccines for COVID-19 used in the US. How would I know that? I have been following/commenting on COVID-19 on Hacker News since early last year. Go look at my comments. You just discredit yourself.

by babesh 5y ago

ncmncm 5y ago

Apparently you have not read any histories of her work. And, obviously it is and always was the nobodies and has-beens driving out people who would shake things up. It has always been easiest to blight the careers of outsiders. The people working are busy, you know, working. The majority of them are obviously not minorities. There is plenty of competition for scarce placements, grants, and facilities, and everyone needs all available boosts to get enough of all of those just to work. We need to ensure all of these available boosts are for quality work.

babesh 5y ago
You show your bias. You don't know what I have read. I have read histories of her work. Several in fact. Get your facts straight instead of trying to hide them in the name of your narrative. Here is the person you are speaking of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katalin_Karikó https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katalin_Karikó I knew that she was demoted for not showing progress. How would I know that? The key tech was encapsulating the RNA in a lipid shell. How would I know that? I also know that her daughter was an Olympian rower. How would I know that? This work was touted in the press for months because it was the basis for the two RNA based vaccines for COVID-19 used in the US. How would I know that? I have been following/commenting on COVID-19 on Hacker News since early last year. Go look at my comments. You just discredit yourself.