> but it’s a failure in the sense of that it remains a programmers idea of what an UI should be Exactly, but that was also the problem with Blender for 15 year

> but it’s a failure in the sense of that it remains a programmers idea of what an UI should be Exactly, but that was also the problem with Blender for 15 years too. Developers should have enough humility to let the UX design to designers and listen to them. Unfortunately, that's rarely the case according to my experience. The web sector is an anomaly in software development, because better UX translates directly into more revenue.