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Disgust is intimately tied to the defense against disease and pathogens, and the wrinkled snout/nose serves the function of closing down the airways to prevent

by ermir 5y ago

Disgust is intimately tied to the defense against disease and pathogens, and the wrinkled snout/nose serves the function of closing down the airways to prevent pathogens from getting inside. Jordan Peterson has an excellent series of lectures regarding disgust sensitivity, here's a sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiDmfb6M4Vk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiDmfb6M4Vk

steve_adams_86 5y ago
This isn’t actually known to be true though, is it? It seems like a compelling hypothesis, but rejection of external objects is only universal as far as our physical responses rather than emotional. For example, something threatening might be purged from the mouth, stomach, or intestines. This is something all humans do. Something undesirable to eat or drink won’t universally trigger a specific facial expression, sound, or feeling. Further, if I wrinkle my nose in disgust it actually flairs my nostrils, seemingly making it easier to breathe and smell. I suspect this is the same for most humans, but I’m open to correction. It simply has no limiting effect on my ability to breathe or smell, though. These are important distinctions, and distinctions which make Peterson’s claim less than factual from my point of view. There’s a great conversation about this on the Making Sense podcast. It touches on this idea exactly, and why we really don’t understand what emotional elements of expression truly mean or where they come from. Things like disgust contain a cultural or environmental element which appear to lack attachment to solely genetic origins. https://samharris.org/subscriber-rss/?uid=PNISESQukqqj4q8 https://samharris.org/subscriber-rss/?uid=PNISESQukqqj4q8
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watwut 5y ago
Wrinkled snout/nose does not close the airways nor prevents pathogens from getting inside. I have to admit that if it would, covid would be way funnier. But, it does not. J
throwaway0xa 5y ago
It really is a great series of lectures that cover a wide range of human phenomenon and ties the pieces together in one coherent story. Hope you're prepared for the downvotes though. We can't have thinking that goes against the narrative here, and Peterson might as well be Goebbels.
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by ermir 5y ago

steve_adams_86 5y ago

This isn’t actually known to be true though, is it? It seems like a compelling hypothesis, but rejection of external objects is only universal as far as our physical responses rather than emotional. For example, something threatening might be purged from the mouth, stomach, or intestines. This is something all humans do. Something undesirable to eat or drink won’t universally trigger a specific facial expression, sound, or feeling. Further, if I wrinkle my nose in disgust it actually flairs my nostrils, seemingly making it easier to breathe and smell. I suspect this is the same for most humans, but I’m open to correction. It simply has no limiting effect on my ability to breathe or smell, though. These are important distinctions, and distinctions which make Peterson’s claim less than factual from my point of view. There’s a great conversation about this on the Making Sense podcast. It touches on this idea exactly, and why we really don’t understand what emotional elements of expression truly mean or where they come from. Things like disgust contain a cultural or environmental element which appear to lack attachment to solely genetic origins. https://samharris.org/subscriber-rss/?uid=PNISESQukqqj4q8 https://samharris.org/subscriber-rss/?uid=PNISESQukqqj4q8

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watwut 5y ago

Wrinkled snout/nose does not close the airways nor prevents pathogens from getting inside. I have to admit that if it would, covid would be way funnier. But, it does not. J

throwaway0xa 5y ago

It really is a great series of lectures that cover a wide range of human phenomenon and ties the pieces together in one coherent story. Hope you're prepared for the downvotes though. We can't have thinking that goes against the narrative here, and Peterson might as well be Goebbels.

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