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Tech employees should not be required to take a third-year law school contracts course to understand their employment agreement.

dctoedt 15y ago
> employees should not be required to take a third-year law school contracts course to understand their employment agreement. @jeffreymcmanus, I'm in violent agreement ....
- gnosis 15y ago
  Please don't use the @name convention on HN. HN is not youtube, where there's no threading of comments and where it's impossible to divine who you're responding to without the @name. Here it's quite obvious who you're responding to, because your comment is indented under the comment you've replied to. Also, while we're at it, replies that say no more than "I agree" or "I disagree" are generally frowned on here, since they're almost completely contentless and don't contribute to the discussion.
  - dctoedt 15y ago
    > Here it's quite obvious who you're responding to, because your comment is indented under the comment you've replied to. Right now that's indeed true. If later on there were to be a lot of intervening comments, it'd be more difficult to tell immediately who the response was directed to. In that case, the @name convention likely would be helpful to readers. > Also, while we're at it, replies that say no more than "I agree" or "I disagree" are generally frowned on here, since they're almost completely contentless and don't contribute to the discussion. That's certainly true in the general case, when you have a random third party chiming in with his or her agreement. In this case, though, the "I agree" was a useful clarification: It signaled, to someone who had responded to me with what could be interpreted as a challenge, that we were on the same page.
    - kwantam 15y ago
      > Right now that's indeed true. If later on there were to be > a lot of intervening comments, it'd be more difficult to > tell immediately who the response was directed to. Not really. Making relationships between messages clear is kind of the point of tree-structured comments.
      - cshesse 15y ago
        It is the point, but it doesn't always work. I have had to use my mouse to record the current level of indentation and then scroll up to find the parent post on some sites.
        beagle3 15y ago
        But you do remember who said what without scrolling, even if it is 3 screens up? (do you even care WHO said it at all or just what was said?) Also "use my mouse to record the level of indention" is wrong. It is perfectly visual. "On some sites" - maybe, but not on HN. And we're discussing (on HN) a comment made on HN. To me, your argument makes no sense and looks like a rationalization of "damn it, I'm used to seeing this style, and I'm going to find an excuse to use it on HN whether it makes sense or not"
      - mgkimsal 15y ago
        When the leaves in the tree move around (or disappear) based on points/scoring/etc, it's still harder to parse than something like slashdot where the positions don't change.
        bostonvaulter2 15y ago
        The parent child relationships never disappear.
  - strlen 15y ago
    @gnosis I disagree
  - shmageggy 15y ago
    He omitted the word "tech" in his quote, implying the statement should apply to all employees. That's minimal, but he is saying something.
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noonespecial 15y ago
Of course not, you're supposed to consult your legal counsel(1) before signing such documents. What? Don't you have the mad cash to pay a lawyer to give such an important document its due consideration right after graduating and joining a startup? (1) Everyone, everywhere should have an attorney at all times in order to check every single thing they do, say, or sign in a public or legal forum. That's why the advice everyone always gives in this sort of situation starts: "Of course, you should check with your attorney..."

dctoedt 15y ago

> employees should not be required to take a third-year law school contracts course to understand their employment agreement. @jeffreymcmanus, I'm in violent agreement ....

gnosis 15y ago
Please don't use the @name convention on HN. HN is not youtube, where there's no threading of comments and where it's impossible to divine who you're responding to without the @name. Here it's quite obvious who you're responding to, because your comment is indented under the comment you've replied to. Also, while we're at it, replies that say no more than "I agree" or "I disagree" are generally frowned on here, since they're almost completely contentless and don't contribute to the discussion.
- dctoedt 15y ago
  > Here it's quite obvious who you're responding to, because your comment is indented under the comment you've replied to. Right now that's indeed true. If later on there were to be a lot of intervening comments, it'd be more difficult to tell immediately who the response was directed to. In that case, the @name convention likely would be helpful to readers. > Also, while we're at it, replies that say no more than "I agree" or "I disagree" are generally frowned on here, since they're almost completely contentless and don't contribute to the discussion. That's certainly true in the general case, when you have a random third party chiming in with his or her agreement. In this case, though, the "I agree" was a useful clarification: It signaled, to someone who had responded to me with what could be interpreted as a challenge, that we were on the same page.
  - kwantam 15y ago
    > Right now that's indeed true. If later on there were to be > a lot of intervening comments, it'd be more difficult to > tell immediately who the response was directed to. Not really. Making relationships between messages clear is kind of the point of tree-structured comments.
    - cshesse 15y ago
      It is the point, but it doesn't always work. I have had to use my mouse to record the current level of indentation and then scroll up to find the parent post on some sites.
      - beagle3 15y ago
        But you do remember who said what without scrolling, even if it is 3 screens up? (do you even care WHO said it at all or just what was said?) Also "use my mouse to record the level of indention" is wrong. It is perfectly visual. "On some sites" - maybe, but not on HN. And we're discussing (on HN) a comment made on HN. To me, your argument makes no sense and looks like a rationalization of "damn it, I'm used to seeing this style, and I'm going to find an excuse to use it on HN whether it makes sense or not"
    - mgkimsal 15y ago
      When the leaves in the tree move around (or disappear) based on points/scoring/etc, it's still harder to parse than something like slashdot where the positions don't change.
      - bostonvaulter2 15y ago
        The parent child relationships never disappear.
- strlen 15y ago
  @gnosis I disagree
- shmageggy 15y ago
  He omitted the word "tech" in his quote, implying the statement should apply to all employees. That's minimal, but he is saying something.

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noonespecial 15y ago

Of course not, you're supposed to consult your legal counsel(1) before signing such documents. What? Don't you have the mad cash to pay a lawyer to give such an important document its due consideration right after graduating and joining a startup? (1) Everyone, everywhere should have an attorney at all times in order to check every single thing they do, say, or sign in a public or legal forum. That's why the advice everyone always gives in this sort of situation starts: "Of course, you should check with your attorney..."