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Likely all that would do is cause them to stop letting people buy content and push everyone over to subscription services - Beyond that, there are problems the

by jjcon 6y ago

Likely all that would do is cause them to stop letting people buy content and push everyone over to subscription services - Beyond that, there are problems there. What’s stopping me from getting all the latest games on iOS, latest movies as they come out then after a few years spend some time purposely breaking TOS so I can get it all refunded.

edgyquant 6y ago
Why is this a problem? If they take access of things you’ve bought, they should have to give you’re money back. Any breaking of the TOS in the future shouldn’t change that whether or not you’re purposefully trying to break them.
- jjcon 6y ago
  Because the value of those thing depreciate over time and therefore a full refund doesn’t accurately reflect current value. A movie is more valuable directly after release, same is true for games. Additionally a movie/game is more valuable to those who have not yet seen/played them.
josephcsible 6y ago
Imagine you bought a bunch of physical books from Barnes and Noble, and then later did something to get yourself banned from all of their stores for life. (If it matters, assume that what you did was bad and that the ban was totally justifiable.) Would it be okay if they broke into your house and glued together the pages of all the books they ever bought, or would you sue them for compensation for doing that?
crazygringo 6y ago
There's no reason Apple has to cut off access to your content even if they ban the rest of your account. They could just set a flag on your account to "consume only" or something. Your account would be banned from "interaction" or further purchases, but you wouldn't lose your content.
- jjcon 6y ago
  This would totally make sense to me - complete refund though doesn’t pass a sniff test
  - account42 6y ago
    Complete refund (or rather whatever it takes to make the customer whole) is what is reasonable for for cases like this where the provider cuts off access. If they have a problem with that, they can implement other solutions that do not cut off access.

by jjcon 6y ago

edgyquant 6y ago

Why is this a problem? If they take access of things you’ve bought, they should have to give you’re money back. Any breaking of the TOS in the future shouldn’t change that whether or not you’re purposefully trying to break them.

jjcon 6y ago
Because the value of those thing depreciate over time and therefore a full refund doesn’t accurately reflect current value. A movie is more valuable directly after release, same is true for games. Additionally a movie/game is more valuable to those who have not yet seen/played them.

josephcsible 6y ago

Imagine you bought a bunch of physical books from Barnes and Noble, and then later did something to get yourself banned from all of their stores for life. (If it matters, assume that what you did was bad and that the ban was totally justifiable.) Would it be okay if they broke into your house and glued together the pages of all the books they ever bought, or would you sue them for compensation for doing that?

crazygringo 6y ago

There's no reason Apple has to cut off access to your content even if they ban the rest of your account. They could just set a flag on your account to "consume only" or something. Your account would be banned from "interaction" or further purchases, but you wouldn't lose your content.

jjcon 6y ago
This would totally make sense to me - complete refund though doesn’t pass a sniff test
- account42 6y ago
  Complete refund (or rather whatever it takes to make the customer whole) is what is reasonable for for cases like this where the provider cuts off access. If they have a problem with that, they can implement other solutions that do not cut off access.