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There's a $10/month "playpack" package (in the US, at least). Some games are only available in the playpack, some games are only available separately. I would a

There's a $10/month "playpack" package (in the US, at least). Some games are only available in the playpack, some games are only available separately. I would argue that on Steam you don't own the game either. They use their own hardware, not EC2 or anything like that. They need gaming-level GPUs and they have their own compression hardware.

StavrosK 15y ago
At least on Steam you have unrestricted access to your games, access doesn't get revoked when you cancel your subscription...
- teamonkey 15y ago
  If you get booted off Steam or call them to delete your profile you lose your library. The games are yours until Steam say they're not. The same goes for the full-price titles on OnLive. The playpack is different, it's the same flat monthly fee model as Netflix. And you can also rent the full-priced titles for a short period of time instead of buying them.
  - StavrosK 15y ago
    What happens to the games you've bought if you stop paying the monthly fee, though?
    - teamonkey 15y ago
      Access to OnLive is free, just like having a Steam account is free. Some games can be bought. So long as the OnLive servers run, they're yours and you don't need to pay a monthly fee (as with Steam games). Some games can be rented. For a few dollars you can get full access to the game for a time-limited period (24 hours or a few days). The first 30 minutes can usually be obtained free as a demo. Some games are available in a playpack. This pack has a monthly fee like Netflix. So long as you keep paying the monthly fee you can play any of the games in the playpack (there's about 50) as much as you like.
      - StavrosK 15y ago
        Oh, I see. Hmm, that's better, but I don't see how it's sustainable for them...
  - dsimms 15y ago
    To answer StavrosK's question, they're two separate things: the monthly fee gets you access to the "playpack" set for the duration of the subscription, while buying (the "Full PlayPass" in the jargon) the game gets you the game (approximately) forever. There's no base fee to be "a member".

StavrosK 15y ago

At least on Steam you have unrestricted access to your games, access doesn't get revoked when you cancel your subscription...

teamonkey 15y ago
If you get booted off Steam or call them to delete your profile you lose your library. The games are yours until Steam say they're not. The same goes for the full-price titles on OnLive. The playpack is different, it's the same flat monthly fee model as Netflix. And you can also rent the full-priced titles for a short period of time instead of buying them.
- StavrosK 15y ago
  What happens to the games you've bought if you stop paying the monthly fee, though?
  - teamonkey 15y ago
    Access to OnLive is free, just like having a Steam account is free. Some games can be bought. So long as the OnLive servers run, they're yours and you don't need to pay a monthly fee (as with Steam games). Some games can be rented. For a few dollars you can get full access to the game for a time-limited period (24 hours or a few days). The first 30 minutes can usually be obtained free as a demo. Some games are available in a playpack. This pack has a monthly fee like Netflix. So long as you keep paying the monthly fee you can play any of the games in the playpack (there's about 50) as much as you like.
    - StavrosK 15y ago
      Oh, I see. Hmm, that's better, but I don't see how it's sustainable for them...
- dsimms 15y ago
  To answer StavrosK's question, they're two separate things: the monthly fee gets you access to the "playpack" set for the duration of the subscription, while buying (the "Full PlayPass" in the jargon) the game gets you the game (approximately) forever. There's no base fee to be "a member".