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> (...) The timeline you’re referring to is aligned with what I said - that India was regarded to have managed the pandemic well just a month or two ago. Pleas

by rualca 6y ago

> (...) The timeline you’re referring to is aligned with what I said - that India was regarded to have managed the pandemic well just a month or two ago. Please don't try to gaslight. I've refuted your baseless assertion that everything was all fine and dandy in India regarding it's struggle with the covid-19 pandemic in Feb/March. I've provided a reputable reference from that time that already showed great concern about the pending disaster, and even enumerates key factors that drove India's covid-19 infections absurd growth. Either you deal with reality and facts, or refrain from posting disinformation and outright lies.

srean 6y ago
> Either you deal with reality and facts, or refrain from posting disinformation and outright lies. You ask for too much sir (or ma'm)
throwawaysea 6y ago
Your own BBC link only talks about cases increasing only in a few states at that time. It quoted medical authorities saying the increased number of cases in some states could be due to increased testing. It includes a graph showing that the overall case rate and death rate in India wasn’t out of the ordinary, matching short lived fluctuations previously seen. This same article also doesn’t single out political rallies or reopening as you did - it speculated about those possibilities for some localities, and also speculated that it could be due to new variants, but doesn’t decisively point at anything as a “key factor” driving a new countrywide surge. The virologist quoted there also clearly didn’t think a big new countrywide surge had begun, given his very tempered statement: > "We may see more localised surges in different part of the country in the coming weeks, and the only way to stay on top of the situation is to be vigilant. We need to be concerned but we are not at a stage where we need to panic" Did you even read the article?
- rualca 6y ago
  > Your own BBC link only talks about cases increasing only in a few states at that time. From the article: > Mr Menon says the only reasonable conclusion is that surveillance in these states is stronger and that a similar rise in other states may simply have gone undetected so far. Also, FTA: > Dr A Fathahudeen, who is part of Kerala's Covid task force, says his state has been reporting a persistent rise in cases in the past few weeks, but it's largely because of improved testing. (...) He advises other states to follow the same measures. "Not finding new cases doesn't mean Covid has gone away. It simply means that the virus is burning through the population until it finds weaker victims like the elderly and people with co-morbidities." If you have no intention to be honest, please refrain from posting at all.
  - throwawaysea 6y ago
    You’re quoting random opinions that don’t pertain to what we were debating. This still doesn’t refute my original claim that India was regarded to have managed the pandemic well just a month or two ago, and that the sudden rise in cases could be due to any number of factors, not just “political rallies” (which were only in a few states) or “opening up” (which varies by location). Literally nothing you have shared or posted proves anything is a “key factor”. You’re digging yourself into a deeper hole by repeatedly quoting open speculation instead of actual evidence. I have no interest in discussing this further with a new account that is running a Gish gallop, if even that. Goodbye.
    - rualca 6y ago
      > You’re quoting random opinions that don’t pertain to what we were debating. I've quoted the Kerala COVID task force representative discussing details of India's covid ongoing massive COVID outbreak. I'm not going to continue wasting time with an individual so hell-bent on trying to gaslight and misrepresent facts and reality.

by rualca 6y ago

srean 6y ago

> Either you deal with reality and facts, or refrain from posting disinformation and outright lies. You ask for too much sir (or ma'm)

throwawaysea 6y ago

Your own BBC link only talks about cases increasing only in a few states at that time. It quoted medical authorities saying the increased number of cases in some states could be due to increased testing. It includes a graph showing that the overall case rate and death rate in India wasn’t out of the ordinary, matching short lived fluctuations previously seen. This same article also doesn’t single out political rallies or reopening as you did - it speculated about those possibilities for some localities, and also speculated that it could be due to new variants, but doesn’t decisively point at anything as a “key factor” driving a new countrywide surge. The virologist quoted there also clearly didn’t think a big new countrywide surge had begun, given his very tempered statement: > "We may see more localised surges in different part of the country in the coming weeks, and the only way to stay on top of the situation is to be vigilant. We need to be concerned but we are not at a stage where we need to panic" Did you even read the article?

rualca 6y ago
> Your own BBC link only talks about cases increasing only in a few states at that time. From the article: > Mr Menon says the only reasonable conclusion is that surveillance in these states is stronger and that a similar rise in other states may simply have gone undetected so far. Also, FTA: > Dr A Fathahudeen, who is part of Kerala's Covid task force, says his state has been reporting a persistent rise in cases in the past few weeks, but it's largely because of improved testing. (...) He advises other states to follow the same measures. "Not finding new cases doesn't mean Covid has gone away. It simply means that the virus is burning through the population until it finds weaker victims like the elderly and people with co-morbidities." If you have no intention to be honest, please refrain from posting at all.
- throwawaysea 6y ago
  You’re quoting random opinions that don’t pertain to what we were debating. This still doesn’t refute my original claim that India was regarded to have managed the pandemic well just a month or two ago, and that the sudden rise in cases could be due to any number of factors, not just “political rallies” (which were only in a few states) or “opening up” (which varies by location). Literally nothing you have shared or posted proves anything is a “key factor”. You’re digging yourself into a deeper hole by repeatedly quoting open speculation instead of actual evidence. I have no interest in discussing this further with a new account that is running a Gish gallop, if even that. Goodbye.
  - rualca 6y ago
    > You’re quoting random opinions that don’t pertain to what we were debating. I've quoted the Kerala COVID task force representative discussing details of India's covid ongoing massive COVID outbreak. I'm not going to continue wasting time with an individual so hell-bent on trying to gaslight and misrepresent facts and reality.