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Level 4, but they operate only in certain areas.
by terramex 5y ago
Level 4, but they operate only in certain areas.
- fastball 5y agoWhich Tesla could do tomorrow if they wanted to. Tesla FSD isn't Level 4/5 because they're skipping level 4, at least they're trying to. Honestly the level system is pretty stupid. The gap between 4 and 5 can be tiny or it can be huge, depending entirely on what you decide to constrain your vehicle to.
- ajross 5y agoYeah. If you check youtube you can find lots of Waymo footage of driverless vehicles operating on broad, very well marked suburban roads in moderate traffic. The FSD beta seems to handle that just fine as it is, and users are also posting plenty of footage[1] (including failures!) in difficult situations like five-way stops, unmarked rural intersections that are just pavement, gridlock conditions, etc... I went looking hard for Waymo-in-extremis kind of stuff, and it just doesn't seem to be there. I think a lot of the argument here is being confounded by the vapor problem. Full disclosure: I pulled the trigger a few weeks ago and am awaiting delivery of a Model Y with FSD. Two levels in the hand are worth four in the bush. > Honestly the level system is pretty stupid Indeed, the SAE Autonomy classification scheme is the OSI Network Layer paradigm of our age. People were sure TCP/IP was going to fail for not being OSI-compliant. [1] Edit: this is a great example from urban SF: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_zTZjCCoxo&t=0s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_zTZjCCoxo&t=0s The car manages narrow lanes, double parked cars, a ton of pedestrians, hilltop crossings with poor visibility, scooters in the lane, unprotected left turns, etc... It looks great in this particular video. And I can't find anything with a Waymo car dealing with similar environments, just big flat suburbs.