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Has has been perfectly legal for decades for a person to make backups of their physical media So this line of thought is completely incorrect, digital distrib

by syshum 6y ago

Has has been perfectly legal for decades for a person to make backups of their physical media So this line of thought is completely incorrect, digital distribution did not invent the ability to have backups of media you purchased

mc32 6y ago
That’s not in dispute. What I’m saying is for the most part these media wore out and often times people had to repurchase those media. I’ve known people who had to replace many of their CDs. They didn’t get to go to the store and “return the defective one” for a warranty replacement.
- syshum 6y ago
  and I have known many people that lose digital data because they did not back it up, they had to then repurchase that content, including things like DRM free ebooks, or drm free media This is not a valid line of objection, just because if someone destroyed their CD and did not have a backup would have to rebuy, same is true if someone did not backup their DRM free content. This HAS NOTHING TO DO with the ability to backup, or the fact that physical media may degrade over time. That is a non sequitur and a red herring all in one In reality this is not even about digital media copyright, but more about the rights of digital platforms to unperson you and seize your legally purchase products for any arbitrary reason (or in many cases no reason at all)
  - mc32 6y ago
    I agree with your point that Apple should not be able to yank/revoke access and treat your account differently than anyone else’s other than by court order. This is worrisome. My initial question was tangential and more thinking out loud how they deal with lower sales velocities.
    - syshum 6y ago
      To the extent there is " lower sales velocities. " of which you have presented no evidence to back that claim, you would also have to present evidence that the lower sales velocities were directly caused by a transition from physical to digital sales. I would find that data to be very interesting, and based on what I know about the industry I would also say that neither one of those claims can be supported by any data I am aware of

by syshum 6y ago

mc32 6y ago

That’s not in dispute. What I’m saying is for the most part these media wore out and often times people had to repurchase those media. I’ve known people who had to replace many of their CDs. They didn’t get to go to the store and “return the defective one” for a warranty replacement.

syshum 6y ago
and I have known many people that lose digital data because they did not back it up, they had to then repurchase that content, including things like DRM free ebooks, or drm free media This is not a valid line of objection, just because if someone destroyed their CD and did not have a backup would have to rebuy, same is true if someone did not backup their DRM free content. This HAS NOTHING TO DO with the ability to backup, or the fact that physical media may degrade over time. That is a non sequitur and a red herring all in one In reality this is not even about digital media copyright, but more about the rights of digital platforms to unperson you and seize your legally purchase products for any arbitrary reason (or in many cases no reason at all)
- mc32 6y ago
  I agree with your point that Apple should not be able to yank/revoke access and treat your account differently than anyone else’s other than by court order. This is worrisome. My initial question was tangential and more thinking out loud how they deal with lower sales velocities.
  - syshum 6y ago
    To the extent there is " lower sales velocities. " of which you have presented no evidence to back that claim, you would also have to present evidence that the lower sales velocities were directly caused by a transition from physical to digital sales. I would find that data to be very interesting, and based on what I know about the industry I would also say that neither one of those claims can be supported by any data I am aware of