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Nah, a reminder of how bad the NYT is, is always a good reminder. NYT isn’t guilty of making mistakes, they are guilty of spreading lies. To frame their decepti

Nah, a reminder of how bad the NYT is, is always a good reminder. NYT isn’t guilty of making mistakes, they are guilty of spreading lies. To frame their deception as an honest mistake, is deceptive in and of itself.

AlexandrB 6y ago
I wish these kinds of vitriolic posts cited some specific instances and sourced their claims. Otherwise I'm left to Google "NYT bad" to try to corroborate any of it.
- throwitaway1235 6y ago
  And imagine if Google is in bed with corporate media, vice versa? Good luck searching for examples.
  - AlexandrB 6y ago
    So what you're saying it that's it's utterly essential for the posters complaining about The NY Times to source their claims? Why don't they do it then?
    - throwitaway1235 6y ago
      Oh no. I was just making a random philosophical point. Nothing really to read into. Just that it would be difficult to find examples of organization x criticism, using organization y, if both x & y are partners.
    - textgel 6y ago
      They do, however those comments with links to evidence all seem to get flagged for some very strange reason.
- splithalf 6y ago
  It’s common knowledge amongst most educated people. Sorry if you had to find out by googling. Probably a sickening feeling if you’ve been a subscriber or passed along any of their retracted news as fact. I too used to trust the nyt, but “show me incentive and I’ll show you the outcome.”
  - jhgb 6y ago
    The "common knowledge amongst most educated people" is this: https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc/ https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc/
- timeschange 6y ago
  Bari Weiss's resignation letter from the NYT is probably the best place to start https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter Matt Taibbi has a good article on this too https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-news-media-is-destroying-itself https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-news-media-is-destroying-i... Glenn Greenwald talks about this on his Substack a lot, too, and the malpractice of the larger media as a whole. This recent and highly topical Twitter thread is one of many examples. https://mobile.twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1383767882668986376 https://mobile.twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/138376788266898...
  - HWR_14 6y ago
    Bari Weiss was an opinion writer. Maybe this explains Fox News's success, but are you unable to tell the difference between opinion and news? But yes, when an opinion writer has unpopular opinions, they are often let go.
    - imwillofficial 6y ago
      ::sets up easily beatable strawman, ignores everything else:: “See! I won!” Quote from article: “There, some coworkers insist I need to be rooted out if this company is to be a truly “inclusive” one, while others post ax emojis next to my name.” Yeah that’s not threatening at all. Totally professional.
    - berniemadoff99 6y ago
      news is ultimately someone's opinion that something is 'news' in the first place. i went to mcdonalds earlier - is that news? i guarantee you vice.com could come up with some kind of news story about bored 30-somethings with nothing better to do during the pandemic than go to mcdonalds as a way to take a break from the internet. does that make it news though, just because a news site says its news? something can be news somewhere [0], and not news somewhere else [1]. [0] https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/ https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden... [1] https://i.imgur.com/OQYuZve.png https://i.imgur.com/OQYuZve.png

AlexandrB 6y ago

I wish these kinds of vitriolic posts cited some specific instances and sourced their claims. Otherwise I'm left to Google "NYT bad" to try to corroborate any of it.

throwitaway1235 6y ago
And imagine if Google is in bed with corporate media, vice versa? Good luck searching for examples.
- AlexandrB 6y ago
  So what you're saying it that's it's utterly essential for the posters complaining about The NY Times to source their claims? Why don't they do it then?
  - throwitaway1235 6y ago
    Oh no. I was just making a random philosophical point. Nothing really to read into. Just that it would be difficult to find examples of organization x criticism, using organization y, if both x & y are partners.
  - textgel 6y ago
    They do, however those comments with links to evidence all seem to get flagged for some very strange reason.
splithalf 6y ago
It’s common knowledge amongst most educated people. Sorry if you had to find out by googling. Probably a sickening feeling if you’ve been a subscriber or passed along any of their retracted news as fact. I too used to trust the nyt, but “show me incentive and I’ll show you the outcome.”
- jhgb 6y ago
  The "common knowledge amongst most educated people" is this: https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc/ https://www.adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc/
timeschange 6y ago
Bari Weiss's resignation letter from the NYT is probably the best place to start https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter Matt Taibbi has a good article on this too https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-news-media-is-destroying-itself https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-news-media-is-destroying-i... Glenn Greenwald talks about this on his Substack a lot, too, and the malpractice of the larger media as a whole. This recent and highly topical Twitter thread is one of many examples. https://mobile.twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1383767882668986376 https://mobile.twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/138376788266898...
- HWR_14 6y ago
  Bari Weiss was an opinion writer. Maybe this explains Fox News's success, but are you unable to tell the difference between opinion and news? But yes, when an opinion writer has unpopular opinions, they are often let go.
  - imwillofficial 6y ago
    ::sets up easily beatable strawman, ignores everything else:: “See! I won!” Quote from article: “There, some coworkers insist I need to be rooted out if this company is to be a truly “inclusive” one, while others post ax emojis next to my name.” Yeah that’s not threatening at all. Totally professional.
  - berniemadoff99 6y ago
    news is ultimately someone's opinion that something is 'news' in the first place. i went to mcdonalds earlier - is that news? i guarantee you vice.com could come up with some kind of news story about bored 30-somethings with nothing better to do during the pandemic than go to mcdonalds as a way to take a break from the internet. does that make it news though, just because a news site says its news? something can be news somewhere [0], and not news somewhere else [1]. [0] https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/ https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden... [1] https://i.imgur.com/OQYuZve.png https://i.imgur.com/OQYuZve.png