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You’ve set up a false dichotomy. It isn’t either nuclear or coal. It’s other renewables like solar and wind and they are eating nuclear’s lunch because they a

You’ve set up a false dichotomy. It isn’t either nuclear or coal. It’s other renewables like solar and wind and they are eating nuclear’s lunch because they are just better in every way. The answer is neither nuclear or coal.

Wowfunhappy 6y ago
But what if it is a dichotomy? Right now, the “answer” seems like it’s going to be coal and oil and natural gas and screw the planet, so I think we need every tool we can get.
adrianN 6y ago
I agree that wind and solar are the better power sources, but Nuclear is good at baseload in a way that renewables can't reproduce quite so easily. We also need to build sufficient storage eventually, probably when renewables have >60% or so marketshare for electricity.
- nebukadnezar 6y ago
  It is in fact quite questionable whether solar and wind are so much better than nuclear. I would suggest to read the following book, which quite clearly illustrate the actual problem that people are not using the facts w.r.t. to radiation and disqualifying nuclear as a requirement for preventing (if possible at all) the climate catastrophe that is coming: https://www.amazon.com/Why-Nuclear-Power-Been-Flop/dp/1098308964/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 https://www.amazon.com/Why-Nuclear-Power-Been-Flop/dp/109830... The amount of resources and CO2 emissions generated by solar and wind are still gigantic. The amount of battery storage required to attempt to handle the intermittency of power generation by solar and wind is not even feasible with the current battery technologies and required amounts of lithium deposits currently know. If you make the claim that solar and wind is going to solve the climate castrophe, you are kidding yourself and humanity. It is in fact deeply disturbing to hear environmental organizations make the claims about solar and wind and branding nuclear at evil. It is ignorant at best.
cbmuser 6y ago
> You’ve set up a false dichotomy. It isn’t either nuclear or coal. It isn’t a false dichotomy, it is simply the truth: > https://haas.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/WP304.pdf https://haas.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/WP304.pdf Germany is phasing out nuclear with the result that their regulator has to ban coal plants from being shut down and start building new gas plants.

Wowfunhappy 6y ago

But what if it is a dichotomy? Right now, the “answer” seems like it’s going to be coal and oil and natural gas and screw the planet, so I think we need every tool we can get.

adrianN 6y ago

I agree that wind and solar are the better power sources, but Nuclear is good at baseload in a way that renewables can't reproduce quite so easily. We also need to build sufficient storage eventually, probably when renewables have >60% or so marketshare for electricity.

nebukadnezar 6y ago
It is in fact quite questionable whether solar and wind are so much better than nuclear. I would suggest to read the following book, which quite clearly illustrate the actual problem that people are not using the facts w.r.t. to radiation and disqualifying nuclear as a requirement for preventing (if possible at all) the climate catastrophe that is coming: https://www.amazon.com/Why-Nuclear-Power-Been-Flop/dp/1098308964/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 https://www.amazon.com/Why-Nuclear-Power-Been-Flop/dp/109830... The amount of resources and CO2 emissions generated by solar and wind are still gigantic. The amount of battery storage required to attempt to handle the intermittency of power generation by solar and wind is not even feasible with the current battery technologies and required amounts of lithium deposits currently know. If you make the claim that solar and wind is going to solve the climate castrophe, you are kidding yourself and humanity. It is in fact deeply disturbing to hear environmental organizations make the claims about solar and wind and branding nuclear at evil. It is ignorant at best.

cbmuser 6y ago

> You’ve set up a false dichotomy. It isn’t either nuclear or coal. It isn’t a false dichotomy, it is simply the truth: > https://haas.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/WP304.pdf https://haas.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/WP304.pdf Germany is phasing out nuclear with the result that their regulator has to ban coal plants from being shut down and start building new gas plants.