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Families choose to hide AND lie about suicide and addiction deaths. I know from multiple first hand experiences. THIS IS BAD FOR EVERYONE! Yes, it's embarrass

Families choose to hide AND lie about suicide and addiction deaths. I know from multiple first hand experiences. THIS IS BAD FOR EVERYONE! Yes, it's embarrassing for the family (though it shouldn't be) because they feel like they can do more. But, it the prevalence needs to made public so we treat these things like the crisis they are! And worse, in this case, people are even drawing ties to the vaccine!?!? What an insane intellectual lottery to play. But that speculation WILL cause direct negative outcomes! Ugh, just ranting b/c as mentioned I have first hand experience with "it wasn't alcohol/drugs/suicide, it was cardiac arrest." /End rant

samhwr 6y ago
This is a complete non sequitur as a reply. The commenter you're replying to asked people to prioritise his grieving family's wishes over your own curiosity. He/she was absolutely right to do so. Your reply talks about other families who lie and state a false cause of death, which would be morally wrong but in this case is completely irrelevant because that's not what's happened. The one bit of your comment which is relevant, I think, is wrong: namely "the prevalence needs to made public so we treat these things like the crisis they are". We have anonymised statistics on suicide and overdose deaths. That is not the same as demanding a specific person's cause of death - and the sense of generalised academic interest you're alluding to is plainly not the reason for which people are curious about how he died. I wish we would get a grip on ourselves here, because it must be upsetting for anyone who knew him and is reading these comments, as surely some of those people are. Edit: I died of a heroin overdose, briefly, before I was resuscitated. If I'd died permanently, my family may well have wanted to keep that information off the record permanently (easier in my case of course because I'm not a public figure). It's easy to think in the age of Wikipedia that all information is in the public domain and belongs to everyone. It's not, and it doesn't.
thebigspacefuck 6y ago
Look at everyone else in this thread, celebrating the life and accomplishments of an amazing hacker that is no longer with us. Then read your comment again and ask yourself if this is the time and place to rant. Maybe not?

samhwr 6y ago

This is a complete non sequitur as a reply. The commenter you're replying to asked people to prioritise his grieving family's wishes over your own curiosity. He/she was absolutely right to do so. Your reply talks about other families who lie and state a false cause of death, which would be morally wrong but in this case is completely irrelevant because that's not what's happened. The one bit of your comment which is relevant, I think, is wrong: namely "the prevalence needs to made public so we treat these things like the crisis they are". We have anonymised statistics on suicide and overdose deaths. That is not the same as demanding a specific person's cause of death - and the sense of generalised academic interest you're alluding to is plainly not the reason for which people are curious about how he died. I wish we would get a grip on ourselves here, because it must be upsetting for anyone who knew him and is reading these comments, as surely some of those people are. Edit: I died of a heroin overdose, briefly, before I was resuscitated. If I'd died permanently, my family may well have wanted to keep that information off the record permanently (easier in my case of course because I'm not a public figure). It's easy to think in the age of Wikipedia that all information is in the public domain and belongs to everyone. It's not, and it doesn't.

thebigspacefuck 6y ago

Look at everyone else in this thread, celebrating the life and accomplishments of an amazing hacker that is no longer with us. Then read your comment again and ask yourself if this is the time and place to rant. Maybe not?