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Original article by the photographer (including a sample photo tainted by radiation, which is missing in the petapixel version): https://www.podniesinski.pl/po

Original article by the photographer (including a sample photo tainted by radiation, which is missing in the petapixel version): https://www.podniesinski.pl/portal/the-sarcophaguss-labyrinth/ https://www.podniesinski.pl/portal/the-sarcophaguss-labyrint...

tenkabuto 6y ago
Which photo(s) is tainted?
- franky47 6y ago
  There's a link to an unprocessed part of a photograph in the Post Scriptum: https://www.podniesinski.pl/portal/wp-content/uploads/slice1.jpg https://www.podniesinski.pl/portal/wp-content/uploads/slice1...
  - neom 6y ago
    I was very curious about the "tainted" photo as my education is in imaging technology. I couldn't tell if he meant the radiation was changing the light, or was changing the camera (tbh I kinda didn't believe him), from the picture, looks like the image sensor did indeed arc a lot and even more weird is the amount and colour of them in relational to the other standard ISO issues in the image. In years of studying digital images and image sensors, I've never seen one act like that, at all.
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ninjin 6y ago
Not only that, do not miss out on his other photo essays: https://www.podniesinski.pl/portal/?lg=en https://www.podniesinski.pl/portal/?lg=en
- sharken 6y ago
  Or buy the Half-life album from the author to show support. https://sklep.podniesinski.pl/en/16-half-life-album https://sklep.podniesinski.pl/en/16-half-life-album
tda 6y ago
What a great series! Especially impressive to see all the installations and facilities required to process the spent fuel from one temporary facility to the other. And the huge amount of steel and concrete required to do so, for now and decades to come, for a facility that produced it's last usable power how many years ago? Note that this is not related to the disaster, but "happy path" as far as I understand. From wikipedia: The three other reactors remained operational after the accident but were eventually shut down by 2000, although the plant remains in the process of decommissioning as of 2021. Nuclear waste clean-up is scheduled for completion in 2065 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_Nuclear_Power_Plant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_Nuclear_Power_Plant Before the first few dozen nuclear reactors have been properly decommissioned, within a reasonable timeframe and for a reasonable budget, I think we have absolutely no business building more of them and burdening future generations with them.
- asd4232 6y ago
  Nuclear power has its issues, but I think burdening future generations with old nuclear plants is better than burdening them with a catastrophic climate change. I would much rather see developing countries building nuclear than building coal. Reducing emissions of energy production as fast as possible should be the first priority now, and nuclear can be helpful there. After this problem has been dealt with, then we have plenty of time to switch completely to better alternatives, like renewables. Even a worst-case scenario like Chernobyl is still way, way less bad for nature than the consequences of climate change. Thanks to lack of humans, the area around Chernobyl is actually doing better biodiversity-wise than before the disaster.
  - decasteve 6y ago
    I don't think it's an either-or scenario. There are other options and other factors at play. The assumption of global peace for thousands of years in a world dotted with world-ending bomb material is a big gamble. The current politics of energy production and consumption, the state-by-state compartmentalization and lack of wider cooperation hampers cleaner options (spoiled-views NIMBYism and regional politics). Wind, solar, and hydro coupled with transcontinental UHV power transmission could solve it with much simpler technologies.
open-source-ux 6y ago
The pictures from the author's website are amazing. Here, for example is the DUGA over-the-horizon radar located in Chernobyl. The author says the radar stopped working as a result of the radiation from the Chernobyl plant and was closed soon after. The way the structure rises above the clouds is an amazing sight: https://www.podniesinski.pl/portal/over-the-horizon/ https://www.podniesinski.pl/portal/over-the-horizon/
ddingus 6y ago
Thanks! I will spend some non trivial time reading, looking and thinking. The externalities involved with nuclear energy are off the charts huge! And the containment efforts! Stones and chisels, for the most part. Thankfully, we are able to automate enough to allow work to proceed. He showed efforts to execute on a 100 year plan. Enough to contain the grief, leaving it for others, and ideally we do not exclude ourselves from more of our world or pollute it beyond our ability to cope with the hazard. Very thought provoking work.

tenkabuto 6y ago

Which photo(s) is tainted?

franky47 6y ago
There's a link to an unprocessed part of a photograph in the Post Scriptum: https://www.podniesinski.pl/portal/wp-content/uploads/slice1.jpg https://www.podniesinski.pl/portal/wp-content/uploads/slice1...
- neom 6y ago
  I was very curious about the "tainted" photo as my education is in imaging technology. I couldn't tell if he meant the radiation was changing the light, or was changing the camera (tbh I kinda didn't believe him), from the picture, looks like the image sensor did indeed arc a lot and even more weird is the amount and colour of them in relational to the other standard ISO issues in the image. In years of studying digital images and image sensors, I've never seen one act like that, at all.

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ninjin 6y ago

Not only that, do not miss out on his other photo essays: https://www.podniesinski.pl/portal/?lg=en https://www.podniesinski.pl/portal/?lg=en

sharken 6y ago
Or buy the Half-life album from the author to show support. https://sklep.podniesinski.pl/en/16-half-life-album https://sklep.podniesinski.pl/en/16-half-life-album

tda 6y ago

What a great series! Especially impressive to see all the installations and facilities required to process the spent fuel from one temporary facility to the other. And the huge amount of steel and concrete required to do so, for now and decades to come, for a facility that produced it's last usable power how many years ago? Note that this is not related to the disaster, but "happy path" as far as I understand. From wikipedia: The three other reactors remained operational after the accident but were eventually shut down by 2000, although the plant remains in the process of decommissioning as of 2021. Nuclear waste clean-up is scheduled for completion in 2065 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_Nuclear_Power_Plant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_Nuclear_Power_Plant Before the first few dozen nuclear reactors have been properly decommissioned, within a reasonable timeframe and for a reasonable budget, I think we have absolutely no business building more of them and burdening future generations with them.

asd4232 6y ago
Nuclear power has its issues, but I think burdening future generations with old nuclear plants is better than burdening them with a catastrophic climate change. I would much rather see developing countries building nuclear than building coal. Reducing emissions of energy production as fast as possible should be the first priority now, and nuclear can be helpful there. After this problem has been dealt with, then we have plenty of time to switch completely to better alternatives, like renewables. Even a worst-case scenario like Chernobyl is still way, way less bad for nature than the consequences of climate change. Thanks to lack of humans, the area around Chernobyl is actually doing better biodiversity-wise than before the disaster.
- decasteve 6y ago
  I don't think it's an either-or scenario. There are other options and other factors at play. The assumption of global peace for thousands of years in a world dotted with world-ending bomb material is a big gamble. The current politics of energy production and consumption, the state-by-state compartmentalization and lack of wider cooperation hampers cleaner options (spoiled-views NIMBYism and regional politics). Wind, solar, and hydro coupled with transcontinental UHV power transmission could solve it with much simpler technologies.

open-source-ux 6y ago

The pictures from the author's website are amazing. Here, for example is the DUGA over-the-horizon radar located in Chernobyl. The author says the radar stopped working as a result of the radiation from the Chernobyl plant and was closed soon after. The way the structure rises above the clouds is an amazing sight: https://www.podniesinski.pl/portal/over-the-horizon/ https://www.podniesinski.pl/portal/over-the-horizon/

ddingus 6y ago

Thanks! I will spend some non trivial time reading, looking and thinking. The externalities involved with nuclear energy are off the charts huge! And the containment efforts! Stones and chisels, for the most part. Thankfully, we are able to automate enough to allow work to proceed. He showed efforts to execute on a 100 year plan. Enough to contain the grief, leaving it for others, and ideally we do not exclude ourselves from more of our world or pollute it beyond our ability to cope with the hazard. Very thought provoking work.