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The definition and notions of "profitable" in college athletics is intentionally elusive and varies wildly. Both sides abuse this obfuscation to their advantag
by snapetom 6y ago
The definition and notions of "profitable" in college athletics is intentionally elusive and varies wildly. Both sides abuse this obfuscation to their advantage, and the articles you link to, besides being archaic, are some of the worst abuses I've seen on this topic.
Each state, university, have different requirements on what is reported as subsidies. For example, discounting an out of state athlete's tuition may or may not be a subsidy. In some schools, all of the apparel sold with a school logo is athletics money, while in others, a percentage. And of course, private universities like Stanford, Northwestern, and the Ivys report very little.
The articles also strawman the entire argument by using student fees to fund athletics. True, some schools abuse the hell out of them. Some Division III schools have ungodly amounts of athletic fees, and the students will never see their return. However, success in athletics, and football in particular, add to the brand of the school. Anti-athletics faculty love to huff and puff about how this isn't true, but common sense and studies in business schools routinely dispute this. Boston College reported a 3x increase in enrollment the year after Doug Flutie threw his touchdown. University of Alabama's enrollment has gone way up while the acceptance rate has gone way down in Nick Saban's tenure. Even if you never attend a game of any sort in school, you will gain in the perceived value of your degree.
> I haven't looked into it but I doubt any football program paid for the stadium they use
This tells me all I need to know about your bias on this.
- syops 5y agoHow does that last quote of mine show my bias? I’ve cited in other posts numerous articles talking about the lack of profitability of most college athletics. I then stated an opinion of mine and indicated that it was merely an opinion. It’s my perception that athletic programs don’t pay for the stadiums they use. Those stadiums use taxpayer money. I know this to true at FSU and at the University of Minnesota. I’m not an expert on this topic and I gave an opinion on an aspect of this issue that I admittedly didn’t have lots of information. Do you not have opinions, impressions, thought, ideas about things you haven’t studied? Of course you do. In my case I was intellectually honest enough to let the reader distinguish between those thoughts of mine I had ready evidence for and those that I don’t. As to your third paragraph please keep in mind my usage of with rare exceptions. Of course you can cite counter examples to the general trend of college football being a drain on resources. Also note that I’ve cited evidence to back up my beliefs and you have not. You’ve even made a reference to common sense. There are far too many examples of where intuition and common sense are wrong for this to be a legitimate basis for a strong belief.