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Or they view justice differently: > Justice: The world may be a difficult place to live, but it is basically just; people usually get what they deserve. The di

Or they view justice differently: > Justice: The world may be a difficult place to live, but it is basically just; people usually get what they deserve. The difficulties in one's life serve as a test to sort the deserving from the undeserving. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_Politics_(book) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_Politics_(book)

spoonjim 6y ago
Anyone who views the Kent State killings as “justice” is deeply dangerous to the health and well-being of those around them.
- redler 6y ago
  There are state laws now being passed that make “blocking roads in protest” a felony, while legalizing running over protestors with your car.
  - throw0101a 6y ago
    > while legalizing running over protestors with your car. Oklahoma: A motor vehicle operator who unintentionally causes injury or death to an individual shall not be criminally or civilly liable for the injury or death, if: 1. The injury or death of the individual occurred while the motor vehicle operator was fleeing from a riot, as defined in Section 1311 of Title 21 of the Oklahoma Statutes, under a reasonable belief that fleeing was necessary to protect the motor vehicle operator from serious injury or death; and 2. The motor vehicle operator exercised due care at the time of the death or injury. * http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2021-22%20ENR/hB/HB1674%20ENR.PDF http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2021-22%20ENR/hB/HB... Florida: 870.07 Affirmative defense in civil action; party convicted of riot. (1) In a civil action for damages for personal injury, wrongful death, or property damage, it is an affirmative defense that such action arose from an injury or damage sustained by a participant acting in furtherance of a riot. The affirmative defense authorized by this section shall be established by evidence that the participant has been convicted of a riot or an aggravated riot prohibited under s. 870.01, or by proof of the commission of such crime by a preponderance of the evidence. * https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2021/1/BillText/er/PDF https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2021/1/BillText/er/PDF If you are trying to flee for your (perceived?) safety during a "riot", then it seems to be treated as a form of self defence (?). From: * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26931096 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26931096
pmarreck 6y ago
Wow. Just wow. I don't live in a world where killing 4 students simply for standing around while a protest was going on to be just, even factoring in property damage, but you do you
- throw0101a 6y ago
  > but you do you It's possible to describe/explain something without condoning it.
  - happytoexplain 6y ago
    I'm all for benefit of the doubt in conversations about touchy subjects, but your post did seem to imply a defense, rather than just an observation. I wasn't sure though, so I didn't comment.

spoonjim 6y ago

Anyone who views the Kent State killings as “justice” is deeply dangerous to the health and well-being of those around them.

redler 6y ago
There are state laws now being passed that make “blocking roads in protest” a felony, while legalizing running over protestors with your car.
- throw0101a 6y ago
  > while legalizing running over protestors with your car. Oklahoma: A motor vehicle operator who unintentionally causes injury or death to an individual shall not be criminally or civilly liable for the injury or death, if: 1. The injury or death of the individual occurred while the motor vehicle operator was fleeing from a riot, as defined in Section 1311 of Title 21 of the Oklahoma Statutes, under a reasonable belief that fleeing was necessary to protect the motor vehicle operator from serious injury or death; and 2. The motor vehicle operator exercised due care at the time of the death or injury. * http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2021-22%20ENR/hB/HB1674%20ENR.PDF http://webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us/cf_pdf/2021-22%20ENR/hB/HB... Florida: 870.07 Affirmative defense in civil action; party convicted of riot. (1) In a civil action for damages for personal injury, wrongful death, or property damage, it is an affirmative defense that such action arose from an injury or damage sustained by a participant acting in furtherance of a riot. The affirmative defense authorized by this section shall be established by evidence that the participant has been convicted of a riot or an aggravated riot prohibited under s. 870.01, or by proof of the commission of such crime by a preponderance of the evidence. * https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2021/1/BillText/er/PDF https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2021/1/BillText/er/PDF If you are trying to flee for your (perceived?) safety during a "riot", then it seems to be treated as a form of self defence (?). From: * https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26931096 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26931096

pmarreck 6y ago

Wow. Just wow. I don't live in a world where killing 4 students simply for standing around while a protest was going on to be just, even factoring in property damage, but you do you

throw0101a 6y ago
> but you do you It's possible to describe/explain something without condoning it.
- happytoexplain 6y ago
  I'm all for benefit of the doubt in conversations about touchy subjects, but your post did seem to imply a defense, rather than just an observation. I wasn't sure though, so I didn't comment.