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I really dislike this strawman and how it goes unchallenged. From my experience, its the IT guy who wants to move to Firefox, but finds no official MSI installe

I really dislike this strawman and how it goes unchallenged. From my experience, its the IT guy who wants to move to Firefox, but finds no official MSI installer and no official group policy extensions difficult to work with on a day to day basis. Mozilla is purposely shooting itself it the foot because it doesn't want to strain its OSS cred by appealing to MS environments and IT departments. Now compare this awful shortsighted attitude to Google's Chrome. Official MSI installer - check. Auto updating - Check. Auto updating of flash - Check. Group Policy - check. Secure sandboxing - check. The narrative of Firefox isn't "the nerds vs the assholes in IT" its "OSS pigheadedness & zealotry vs basic convenience" and its amusing to see a more liberal project like Chrome eat its lunch.

vessenes 15y ago
I like all those things in Chrome, too, although we're so heterogenous that they don't matter that much in my organizations, honestly. That said, did you read the original article? Thousands of web apps need to be 're-certified'. This guy isn't installing Chrome in his office. Full disclosure: I typed this in Chrome.
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- drzaiusapelord 15y ago
  I did read the original article. I still don't see any good reason why Mozilla is abandoning major releases in 3 months. Heaven forbid those 'assholes' in IT be allowed to do testing on any schedule other than the whims of Asa Dotzler. The suggestion from Asa about someone starting a business version of FF is ridiculous on its face. Why bother dealing with FF and paying when IE9 is good enough? Especially with Chrome as an alternate browser? The dismissive neckbeard attitude doesn't win friends or marketshare. I wish more people understood this. I also wish people would stop it with the double-standard. Imagine if MS pulled shit like this and responded like Asa did. Or if the Mysql guys did this and said 'update it every 3 months, if you dont like it then pay for Oracle.' Just incredible how much leeway we give Mozilla for some bizarre reason. Fanboys die hard, I guess.
aphexairlines 15y ago
What kind of group policy extensions do you mean?

vessenes 15y ago

I like all those things in Chrome, too, although we're so heterogenous that they don't matter that much in my organizations, honestly. That said, did you read the original article? Thousands of web apps need to be 're-certified'. This guy isn't installing Chrome in his office. Full disclosure: I typed this in Chrome.

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drzaiusapelord 15y ago
I did read the original article. I still don't see any good reason why Mozilla is abandoning major releases in 3 months. Heaven forbid those 'assholes' in IT be allowed to do testing on any schedule other than the whims of Asa Dotzler. The suggestion from Asa about someone starting a business version of FF is ridiculous on its face. Why bother dealing with FF and paying when IE9 is good enough? Especially with Chrome as an alternate browser? The dismissive neckbeard attitude doesn't win friends or marketshare. I wish more people understood this. I also wish people would stop it with the double-standard. Imagine if MS pulled shit like this and responded like Asa did. Or if the Mysql guys did this and said 'update it every 3 months, if you dont like it then pay for Oracle.' Just incredible how much leeway we give Mozilla for some bizarre reason. Fanboys die hard, I guess.

aphexairlines 15y ago

What kind of group policy extensions do you mean?