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Real-life advice: disable ipV6 whenever possible. It is nothing but a deadly cancer.

by danbmil99 6y ago

neilalexander 6y ago
Without informed elaboration, it is incredibly difficult to take such a ridiculous comment seriously.
- danbmil99 6y ago
  From the perspective of a working programmer who wants to get things done, ipv4 does everything I need. ipv6 is nothing but a headache for no apparent advantage. It is poorly supported in the real world. I once had a situation where my internet provider appeared to support ipv6 but it was so buggy I could not successfully get apt to work. After similar problems with ssh, I routinely add "-4" to any ssh invocation. I just cannot be bothered with a protocol that adds nothing to my life but problems and headaches. I'll deal with ipv6 when I hear that ipv4 is being deprecated. As in, most likely never.
  - neilalexander 6y ago
    First of all, it is not reasonable to blame the protocol for your ISP's inability to configure it properly. Secondly, I don't get this mentality that IPv6 is some totally inferior thing and I really don't get people advising others to disable IPv6 just because they don't understand it. Statements like "IPv4 does everything I need!" are, ultimately, totally missing the point. The fact is that we have hit the scale ceiling of the IPv4 address space and other cracks are showing and now the entire world needs something that will scale for the next few hundred billion devices. IPv6 is the protocol that will lift the scale ceiling higher, not just for you and your needs, but for everyone. It won't really change anything performance-wise, nor will it change how higher-layer protocols like TCP and UDP work, but that's intentional. You can hold out on principle if you like but it won't gain you anything. The world will just migrate around you eventually.
  - thu2111 6y ago
    I suspect you'll have a new perspective when you try and obtain a block of IP addresses and compare the prices...

Real-life advice: disable ipV6 whenever possible. It is nothing but a deadly cancer.

neilalexander 6y ago

Without informed elaboration, it is incredibly difficult to take such a ridiculous comment seriously.

danbmil99 6y ago
From the perspective of a working programmer who wants to get things done, ipv4 does everything I need. ipv6 is nothing but a headache for no apparent advantage. It is poorly supported in the real world. I once had a situation where my internet provider appeared to support ipv6 but it was so buggy I could not successfully get apt to work. After similar problems with ssh, I routinely add "-4" to any ssh invocation. I just cannot be bothered with a protocol that adds nothing to my life but problems and headaches. I'll deal with ipv6 when I hear that ipv4 is being deprecated. As in, most likely never.
- neilalexander 6y ago
  First of all, it is not reasonable to blame the protocol for your ISP's inability to configure it properly. Secondly, I don't get this mentality that IPv6 is some totally inferior thing and I really don't get people advising others to disable IPv6 just because they don't understand it. Statements like "IPv4 does everything I need!" are, ultimately, totally missing the point. The fact is that we have hit the scale ceiling of the IPv4 address space and other cracks are showing and now the entire world needs something that will scale for the next few hundred billion devices. IPv6 is the protocol that will lift the scale ceiling higher, not just for you and your needs, but for everyone. It won't really change anything performance-wise, nor will it change how higher-layer protocols like TCP and UDP work, but that's intentional. You can hold out on principle if you like but it won't gain you anything. The world will just migrate around you eventually.
- thu2111 6y ago
  I suspect you'll have a new perspective when you try and obtain a block of IP addresses and compare the prices...