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I couldn't find a single photo of a tiny shelter in the whole article.

by nomdep 6y ago

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evan_ 6y ago
There are a few in the linked gofundme. https://ca.gofundme.com/f/toronto-tiny-shelters?utm_campaign=p_cp_url&utm_medium=os&utm_source=customer https://ca.gofundme.com/f/toronto-tiny-shelters?utm_campaign...
RandomWorker 6y ago
https://ca.gofundme.com/f/toronto-tiny-shelters?utm_campaign=p_cp_url&utm_medium=os&utm_source=customer https://ca.gofundme.com/f/toronto-tiny-shelters?utm_campaign... Some can be seen on the gofundme. More info plus video on CBC https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/mobile-shelters-homelessness-covid19-1.5777158 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/mobile-shelters-homel... One more; https://broadview.org/tiny-homes-khaleel-seivwright/ https://broadview.org/tiny-homes-khaleel-seivwright/
- Fezzik 6y ago
  The NYT article seems (to me) to have both the best photos and the best write-up: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/16/world/canada/khaleel-seivwright-toronto-homeless.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/16/world/canada/khaleel-seiv...
- waheoo 6y ago
  Oh yea, that's a problem. They're shanty shacks. Welcome to the Toronto slums.
  - Noumenon72 5y ago
    It's low-income housing. It doesn't have any problematic slumlike qualities like stolen electrical, trash, or dilapidation.
polartx 6y ago
I was looking for the same thing. I came to the conclusion that the reason the article didn’t share any is because a 6x8’ (ironically, slightly smaller than the dimensions of a jail cell) plywood shack, constructed by a 28 year old, that is given away, probably looks worse than the shanties of the poorest Brazilian favelas. As a side note, it’s often times easier to gauge the bias of a news source by what they deliberately won’t show you, than the entirety of the content they craft to try and persuade you.
- bscphil 6y ago
  > probably looks worse than the shanties of the poorest Brazilian favelas. They're intended to be temporary shelters, not homes. In any case, isn't the correct comparison to the tent or sleeping bag someone would otherwise be living in?
- djmips 6y ago
  Yeah, come to your conclusions instead of spending the extra few minutes.
- eitland 6y ago
  > ironically, slightly smaller than the dimensions of a jail cell The major difference being that you aren't locked in. (Side note: I belive you will need a second escape for this to be legal in Norway and a number of other places.) Furthermore, for the same type of geometry more room means more surface which means either more insulation and higher build cost or not being usable in winter without extra heating. Also, for reference, my "corona office" that I use now is 1.6mx1.8m and contains a 1.4m desk and a 0.4m width filing cabinet on one wall, a chair in the middle and a bookshelf and an area were I stack plastic boxes behind me. It is cramped and I often opt for the kitchen when I can but when schools are closed it feels like it is the difference between working productively and going nuts.
djmips 6y ago
They linked a video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdbmLKaGleg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdbmLKaGleg

I couldn't find a single photo of a tiny shelter in the whole article.

by nomdep 6y ago

I couldn't find a single photo of a tiny shelter in the whole article.

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evan_ 6y ago

There are a few in the linked gofundme. https://ca.gofundme.com/f/toronto-tiny-shelters?utm_campaign=p_cp_url&utm_medium=os&utm_source=customer https://ca.gofundme.com/f/toronto-tiny-shelters?utm_campaign...

RandomWorker 6y ago

https://ca.gofundme.com/f/toronto-tiny-shelters?utm_campaign=p_cp_url&utm_medium=os&utm_source=customer https://ca.gofundme.com/f/toronto-tiny-shelters?utm_campaign... Some can be seen on the gofundme. More info plus video on CBC https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/mobile-shelters-homelessness-covid19-1.5777158 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/mobile-shelters-homel... One more; https://broadview.org/tiny-homes-khaleel-seivwright/ https://broadview.org/tiny-homes-khaleel-seivwright/

Fezzik 6y ago
The NYT article seems (to me) to have both the best photos and the best write-up: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/16/world/canada/khaleel-seivwright-toronto-homeless.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/16/world/canada/khaleel-seiv...
waheoo 6y ago
Oh yea, that's a problem. They're shanty shacks. Welcome to the Toronto slums.
- Noumenon72 5y ago
  It's low-income housing. It doesn't have any problematic slumlike qualities like stolen electrical, trash, or dilapidation.

polartx 6y ago

I was looking for the same thing. I came to the conclusion that the reason the article didn’t share any is because a 6x8’ (ironically, slightly smaller than the dimensions of a jail cell) plywood shack, constructed by a 28 year old, that is given away, probably looks worse than the shanties of the poorest Brazilian favelas. As a side note, it’s often times easier to gauge the bias of a news source by what they deliberately won’t show you, than the entirety of the content they craft to try and persuade you.

bscphil 6y ago
> probably looks worse than the shanties of the poorest Brazilian favelas. They're intended to be temporary shelters, not homes. In any case, isn't the correct comparison to the tent or sleeping bag someone would otherwise be living in?
djmips 6y ago
Yeah, come to your conclusions instead of spending the extra few minutes.
eitland 6y ago
> ironically, slightly smaller than the dimensions of a jail cell The major difference being that you aren't locked in. (Side note: I belive you will need a second escape for this to be legal in Norway and a number of other places.) Furthermore, for the same type of geometry more room means more surface which means either more insulation and higher build cost or not being usable in winter without extra heating. Also, for reference, my "corona office" that I use now is 1.6mx1.8m and contains a 1.4m desk and a 0.4m width filing cabinet on one wall, a chair in the middle and a bookshelf and an area were I stack plastic boxes behind me. It is cramped and I often opt for the kitchen when I can but when schools are closed it feels like it is the difference between working productively and going nuts.

djmips 6y ago

They linked a video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdbmLKaGleg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdbmLKaGleg