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> But there are definitely occasional gems in the rough that can be found there that cannot be found elsewhere. Can you give an example of a gem? I've only see

> But there are definitely occasional gems in the rough that can be found there that cannot be found elsewhere. Can you give an example of a gem? I've only seen the racist trash side (that's certainly what's on the board as of right now).

fighterpilot 5y ago
I know there was a correct math proof to a novel and nontrivial problem that was put there by some anonymous user (probably not in pol but in 4chan). Forgot details of it
- setr 5y ago
  It was /a/, the anime board, of all places https://mathsci.fandom.com/wiki/The_Haruhi_Problem https://mathsci.fandom.com/wiki/The_Haruhi_Problem
  - cygx 5y ago
    /sci/, actually - cf https://web.archive.org/web/20181024190314/https://warosu.org/sci/thread/3751105 https://web.archive.org/web/20181024190314/https://warosu.or...
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filoleg 5y ago
Well, for just a singular example from /pol/ (since it isn't a board I frequent much at all given the super low signal-to-noise ratio, I prefer more hobby-specific boards, such as /o/ for car-motorcycle discussions and /mu/ for music-related stuff), people there were looking into and brought upon pedophilic allegations against Peter Bright years before he got actually charged with those (which actually happened just last year[0]). Mind you, not claiming that 4chan had anything to do with the guy getting eventually caught. But the fact that they had those allegations with basic reasoning and evidence before there was even a whiff of it in public is definitely something. Or when they had "journalists" from big publications trying to go there and interview people on the boards, they got fed so much misleading and obviously bs info on purpose before being chased away, it was definitely entertaining to observe. Especially given how obvious it was that the "journalists" in question came in there with a very specific narrative in mind already, and it all got crumbled pretty much in real time. Not even mentioning stuff like a solution to a novel math problem (which other commenters have already mentioned), which ended up being cited and is relevant to actual ongoing research in a specific math area.[1] Do those things count as "gems"? That's purely subjective. But that's the kind of stuff I personally appreciate seeing there. 0. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/former-journalist-convicted-trial-attempted-child-enticement https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/former-journalist-convi... 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superpermutation#Lower_bounds,_or_the_Haruhi_problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superpermutation#Lower_bounds,...
- solosoyokaze 5y ago
  Trolling journalists doesn't sound like "gems", it sounds like a waste of time (and I'm no fan of most journalists). The Peter Bright article you posted has no mention of /pol.
  - filoleg 5y ago
    >The Peter Bright article you posted has no mention of /pol. It wasn't supposed to, I just posted it for the context of the court case I was talking about. It would be more weird if the court decision included those, since they didn't contribute to his arrest or anything. If you are curious, you are welcome to go to any 4chan archiver websites and search for his name to see those conversations. >Trolling journalists doesn't sound like "gems", it sounds like a waste of time (and I'm no fan of most journalists). What sounds like a waste of time to you might sound like good entertainment to others. If anything, I would say that the "journalist" going directly to 4chan and attempting to "interview" people there was much more of a waste of time.
    - solosoyokaze 5y ago
      You claimed there was something beyond the surface level racism and white supremacy, but you haven't really provided that. Trolling journalists doesn't make them any less racist, especially when they use racism for trolling. There doesn't seem to be anything "deeper". Just straight up white supremacy. [EDIT] (since I'm now throttled for some reason) You can go on /pol right now and see it's full of white supremacy and hate. You claimed there's some deeper meaning to all of that. There's not though, it is exactly what it looks like.
      - filoleg 5y ago
        > You claimed there was something beyond the surface level racism and white supremacy, but you haven't really provided that. You seem to be hyperfixating on one out of 3 examples I mentioned. Did you miss the part about a proof for an unsolved math problem or early allegations against someone who went on to be charged for that exact same thing years later? Not even mentioning other boards that are hobby-specific, like /o/ (car-related stuff) or /fit/ (fitness related stuff). If you see no value in it, that's fine. But "everything i don't like has no value" is not the way to live life.

fighterpilot 5y ago

I know there was a correct math proof to a novel and nontrivial problem that was put there by some anonymous user (probably not in pol but in 4chan). Forgot details of it

setr 5y ago
It was /a/, the anime board, of all places https://mathsci.fandom.com/wiki/The_Haruhi_Problem https://mathsci.fandom.com/wiki/The_Haruhi_Problem
- cygx 5y ago
  /sci/, actually - cf https://web.archive.org/web/20181024190314/https://warosu.org/sci/thread/3751105 https://web.archive.org/web/20181024190314/https://warosu.or...
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filoleg 5y ago

Well, for just a singular example from /pol/ (since it isn't a board I frequent much at all given the super low signal-to-noise ratio, I prefer more hobby-specific boards, such as /o/ for car-motorcycle discussions and /mu/ for music-related stuff), people there were looking into and brought upon pedophilic allegations against Peter Bright years before he got actually charged with those (which actually happened just last year[0]). Mind you, not claiming that 4chan had anything to do with the guy getting eventually caught. But the fact that they had those allegations with basic reasoning and evidence before there was even a whiff of it in public is definitely something. Or when they had "journalists" from big publications trying to go there and interview people on the boards, they got fed so much misleading and obviously bs info on purpose before being chased away, it was definitely entertaining to observe. Especially given how obvious it was that the "journalists" in question came in there with a very specific narrative in mind already, and it all got crumbled pretty much in real time. Not even mentioning stuff like a solution to a novel math problem (which other commenters have already mentioned), which ended up being cited and is relevant to actual ongoing research in a specific math area.[1] Do those things count as "gems"? That's purely subjective. But that's the kind of stuff I personally appreciate seeing there. 0. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/former-journalist-convicted-trial-attempted-child-enticement https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/former-journalist-convi... 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superpermutation#Lower_bounds,_or_the_Haruhi_problem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superpermutation#Lower_bounds,...

solosoyokaze 5y ago
Trolling journalists doesn't sound like "gems", it sounds like a waste of time (and I'm no fan of most journalists). The Peter Bright article you posted has no mention of /pol.
- filoleg 5y ago
  >The Peter Bright article you posted has no mention of /pol. It wasn't supposed to, I just posted it for the context of the court case I was talking about. It would be more weird if the court decision included those, since they didn't contribute to his arrest or anything. If you are curious, you are welcome to go to any 4chan archiver websites and search for his name to see those conversations. >Trolling journalists doesn't sound like "gems", it sounds like a waste of time (and I'm no fan of most journalists). What sounds like a waste of time to you might sound like good entertainment to others. If anything, I would say that the "journalist" going directly to 4chan and attempting to "interview" people there was much more of a waste of time.
  - solosoyokaze 5y ago
    You claimed there was something beyond the surface level racism and white supremacy, but you haven't really provided that. Trolling journalists doesn't make them any less racist, especially when they use racism for trolling. There doesn't seem to be anything "deeper". Just straight up white supremacy. [EDIT] (since I'm now throttled for some reason) You can go on /pol right now and see it's full of white supremacy and hate. You claimed there's some deeper meaning to all of that. There's not though, it is exactly what it looks like.
    - filoleg 5y ago
      > You claimed there was something beyond the surface level racism and white supremacy, but you haven't really provided that. You seem to be hyperfixating on one out of 3 examples I mentioned. Did you miss the part about a proof for an unsolved math problem or early allegations against someone who went on to be charged for that exact same thing years later? Not even mentioning other boards that are hobby-specific, like /o/ (car-related stuff) or /fit/ (fitness related stuff). If you see no value in it, that's fine. But "everything i don't like has no value" is not the way to live life.