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We're talking about this site? (NSFW): https://boards.4chan.org/pol https://boards.4chan.org/pol Looks more like an international white supremacist convention

We're talking about this site? (NSFW): https://boards.4chan.org/pol https://boards.4chan.org/pol Looks more like an international white supremacist convention than United Nations to me. And I'm not saying that just because they love using the n-word so much, but that is one of the reasons. Most posts on there don't seem to be from a diverse audience. They mostly seem to be from the perspective of a young racist white male audience, which is a very small percentage of the world population. It's very obvious 4chan pol is disproportionately young white supremacist males with all the n-word, misogynist, anti-Jew obsession, white nationalism obsession that dominates the discussions. I guarantee you the discussion/perspective there is overwhelmingly dominated by young white males with very few female perspectives (50+% of the population) and non-White perspectives (majority of the population).

urthebiased1 5y ago
You know there's plenty of antisemitism around the world, especially in places like Iran, which officially denies the Holocaust, that isn't coming from a "white supremacist" place, especially not in the context of American white supremacy. Considering that we know for a fact that you don't know the ages, genders, nationality, or races of the people with these beliefs, and can only see their beliefs posted anonymously on 4chan, and then you think you have enough information to extrapolate that these people must be white, male, and young, says a lot more about YOUR prejudices than the people on 4chan, quite frankly. You see hate and just assume the hateful are the gender, race, and age, that you perceive to be the enemy.
- pcbro141 5y ago
  White males make up a disproportionate amount of white nationalists compared to the total population (obviously...?), and white nationalism is disproportionately represented on that board. Thus I suspect that white males make up a disproportionate amount of posters on /pol/. I'm sure there are other races posting racist things there as well, but I said disproportionately young white males tend to post white nationalist talking points, which I stand by and this shouldn't offend anyone. I am in no way implying most white males are white supremacists. I'm saying most white supremacists are white males which is an uncontroversial obvious statement that I stand by. You cannot convince me that most white nationalists are non-white, that's a silly deflection.
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okareaman 5y ago
That's partly true but I like to know what that group is thinking. As bad as it is, I don't detect any energy towards violent overthrow of the US Govt as was expressed by Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City. Maybe elsewhere, but not on 4chan/pol/ There are a lot of people on 4chan from non-European countries. I've seen vile anti-semitism expressed by someone with a Saudi flag. It's not uncommon.
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  There is a lot of energy at violently overthrowing the US Government. That sentiment is expressed every time you hear the word "ZOG" or "Golem". It takes a while to parse through it.
occasionally4ch 5y ago
We're talking about these white supremacists? Google image search "pol meetup" https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/975/547/c10.jpg https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/975/547/c10...
hnbad 5y ago
I can only recommend watching Innuendo Studios' _Alt-Right Playbook_ series for a deeper understanding of the dynamics, but if you don't have the time I'd at least recommend watching this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMabpBvtXr4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMabpBvtXr4 All of 4chan, but especially /b/, is built around "haha just kidding ... unless", ridiculing people for getting offended while "trolling" with the most nefarious opinions and defending them "as a joke". This escalated with /pol/ which at some point became mask-off unironically white supremacist. This is not just about 4chan being too white and too male and everybody self-identifying as NEET (whether as a joke or in earnest). The perpetual "ironic" regurgitation of racist, misogynist and anti-Semitic talking points attracted Nazis because it allowed them to hide in plain sight and they very successfully used it as part of their pipeline by getting people to repeat their jokes until they stopped laughing.
- sudosysgen 5y ago
  I second the recommendation. Basically, /pol/ centers around irony poisoning. But definitely watch the Innuendo Studios series.

urthebiased1 5y ago

You know there's plenty of antisemitism around the world, especially in places like Iran, which officially denies the Holocaust, that isn't coming from a "white supremacist" place, especially not in the context of American white supremacy. Considering that we know for a fact that you don't know the ages, genders, nationality, or races of the people with these beliefs, and can only see their beliefs posted anonymously on 4chan, and then you think you have enough information to extrapolate that these people must be white, male, and young, says a lot more about YOUR prejudices than the people on 4chan, quite frankly. You see hate and just assume the hateful are the gender, race, and age, that you perceive to be the enemy.

pcbro141 5y ago
White males make up a disproportionate amount of white nationalists compared to the total population (obviously...?), and white nationalism is disproportionately represented on that board. Thus I suspect that white males make up a disproportionate amount of posters on /pol/. I'm sure there are other races posting racist things there as well, but I said disproportionately young white males tend to post white nationalist talking points, which I stand by and this shouldn't offend anyone. I am in no way implying most white males are white supremacists. I'm saying most white supremacists are white males which is an uncontroversial obvious statement that I stand by. You cannot convince me that most white nationalists are non-white, that's a silly deflection.
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okareaman 5y ago

That's partly true but I like to know what that group is thinking. As bad as it is, I don't detect any energy towards violent overthrow of the US Govt as was expressed by Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City. Maybe elsewhere, but not on 4chan/pol/ There are a lot of people on 4chan from non-European countries. I've seen vile anti-semitism expressed by someone with a Saudi flag. It's not uncommon.

sudosysgen 5y ago
There is a lot of energy at violently overthrowing the US Government. That sentiment is expressed every time you hear the word "ZOG" or "Golem". It takes a while to parse through it.

occasionally4ch 5y ago

We're talking about these white supremacists? Google image search "pol meetup" https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/975/547/c10.jpg https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/975/547/c10...

hnbad 5y ago

I can only recommend watching Innuendo Studios' _Alt-Right Playbook_ series for a deeper understanding of the dynamics, but if you don't have the time I'd at least recommend watching this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMabpBvtXr4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMabpBvtXr4 All of 4chan, but especially /b/, is built around "haha just kidding ... unless", ridiculing people for getting offended while "trolling" with the most nefarious opinions and defending them "as a joke". This escalated with /pol/ which at some point became mask-off unironically white supremacist. This is not just about 4chan being too white and too male and everybody self-identifying as NEET (whether as a joke or in earnest). The perpetual "ironic" regurgitation of racist, misogynist and anti-Semitic talking points attracted Nazis because it allowed them to hide in plain sight and they very successfully used it as part of their pipeline by getting people to repeat their jokes until they stopped laughing.

sudosysgen 5y ago
I second the recommendation. Basically, /pol/ centers around irony poisoning. But definitely watch the Innuendo Studios series.