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Yeah, and the Czech Republic, which used to be the big European success story which proved everyone else should be able to do better, ended up with the most Cov

by makomk 6y ago

Yeah, and the Czech Republic, which used to be the big European success story which proved everyone else should be able to do better, ended up with the most Covid-19 deaths per capita in Europe (maybe in the world, can't remember). So many confident predictions failed and then were quietly forgotten.

AndrewBissell 6y ago
Specifically, the Czechs were praised for their early and aggressive mask mandates and compliance rates, which were credited with keeping their infection rate lower than European neighbors.
- inglor_cz 6y ago
  Unfortunately, once no Armageddon happened, the population got tired of the restrictions and the politicians followed. Then, the British variant arrived and here we are, world champions in deaths per thousand people.
  - AndrewBissell 6y ago
    It's almost like these interventions can't be maintained indefinitely and are therefore stopgaps at best. With the CDC's own study saying masks reduce transmission by all of 2%, I doubt it was lack of mask wearing that made the difference. There's still no Armageddon happening anywhere.
    - NationalPark 6y ago
      Please stop posting lies about the effectiveness of masks. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776536 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776536
      - AndrewBissell 6y ago
        Your own link has several studies with numbers in the same ballpark as what I cited. Here's the CDC study: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e3.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e3.htm
        dehrmann 6y ago
        Here's the "2%." https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e3.htm#F1_down https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e3.htm#F1_down It's "percentage point change," which I read as absolute percentage points. It's different from you what said, "masks reduce transmission by all of 2%," but it also looks like a garbage number because you can't average percents like that and get meaningful data, and the result is hard to interpret. If masks drop the growth rate by 2 percentage point, two percentage points from what?

by makomk 6y ago

AndrewBissell 6y ago

Specifically, the Czechs were praised for their early and aggressive mask mandates and compliance rates, which were credited with keeping their infection rate lower than European neighbors.

inglor_cz 6y ago
Unfortunately, once no Armageddon happened, the population got tired of the restrictions and the politicians followed. Then, the British variant arrived and here we are, world champions in deaths per thousand people.
- AndrewBissell 6y ago
  It's almost like these interventions can't be maintained indefinitely and are therefore stopgaps at best. With the CDC's own study saying masks reduce transmission by all of 2%, I doubt it was lack of mask wearing that made the difference. There's still no Armageddon happening anywhere.
  - NationalPark 6y ago
    Please stop posting lies about the effectiveness of masks. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776536 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776536
    - AndrewBissell 6y ago
      Your own link has several studies with numbers in the same ballpark as what I cited. Here's the CDC study: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e3.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e3.htm
      - dehrmann 6y ago
        Here's the "2%." https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e3.htm#F1_down https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7010e3.htm#F1_down It's "percentage point change," which I read as absolute percentage points. It's different from you what said, "masks reduce transmission by all of 2%," but it also looks like a garbage number because you can't average percents like that and get meaningful data, and the result is hard to interpret. If masks drop the growth rate by 2 percentage point, two percentage points from what?