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I imagine Moot wasn't hired for technical skill exactly, but for his years of experience trying to shape a difficult community. I'd be interested in a breakdown

I imagine Moot wasn't hired for technical skill exactly, but for his years of experience trying to shape a difficult community. I'd be interested in a breakdown of how Moot "fostered" the toxic aspects of 4chan. One could say that any anonymous community will be toxic and harmful to the general world, but that feels like a conclusion that is drawn after watching 4chan metastasize.

russdpale 6y ago
Well that's a completely stupid thing to hire him for. He never shaped a difficult community LOL. What an absurd thing to even begin to believe. Did they spend ANY time on 4chan at all before hiring him? It was obvious from the moment 4chan started and got a huge exodus of SA users from FYAD, that 4chan was the worst place on the internet by a mile. No hindsight needed, not even close. Everyone knew that and its not some kind of secret. 4chan was the worst from the moment it started.
formerly_proven 6y ago
Claiming 4chan is a uniform community is like saying Reddit users form a coherent community.
- krapp 6y ago
  >like saying Reddit users form a coherent community Which, let's be fair, people do all the time, especially here. Also, plenty of people who frequent 4chan and defend it against criticism often speak of its culture and how outsiders don't understand its quirks, so clearly it does have something of a coherent community.
  - SyzygistSix 6y ago
    To the extent that the medium is the message, forums do encourage certain types and qualities of interaction. In that way, many, many subreddits are alike and there is a single culture to it. Also the larger a community gets, the more mediocre and average it becomes and the more the culture that is reinforced by the medium comes to the fore.
- Oddskar 6y ago
  Couldn't the same thing largely be said about any major social network? Facebook isn't really a uniform community I would argue, nor is Whatsapp. Sure they have certain demographics that are larger than others and so on, but so does 4chan and reddit.

russdpale 6y ago

Well that's a completely stupid thing to hire him for. He never shaped a difficult community LOL. What an absurd thing to even begin to believe. Did they spend ANY time on 4chan at all before hiring him? It was obvious from the moment 4chan started and got a huge exodus of SA users from FYAD, that 4chan was the worst place on the internet by a mile. No hindsight needed, not even close. Everyone knew that and its not some kind of secret. 4chan was the worst from the moment it started.

formerly_proven 6y ago

Claiming 4chan is a uniform community is like saying Reddit users form a coherent community.

krapp 6y ago
>like saying Reddit users form a coherent community Which, let's be fair, people do all the time, especially here. Also, plenty of people who frequent 4chan and defend it against criticism often speak of its culture and how outsiders don't understand its quirks, so clearly it does have something of a coherent community.
- SyzygistSix 6y ago
  To the extent that the medium is the message, forums do encourage certain types and qualities of interaction. In that way, many, many subreddits are alike and there is a single culture to it. Also the larger a community gets, the more mediocre and average it becomes and the more the culture that is reinforced by the medium comes to the fore.
Oddskar 6y ago
Couldn't the same thing largely be said about any major social network? Facebook isn't really a uniform community I would argue, nor is Whatsapp. Sure they have certain demographics that are larger than others and so on, but so does 4chan and reddit.